“Tears of joy!” Travis Kelce reveals the sentimental baby name idea that moved Taylor Swift to tears

The President’s Cup is this week. Um, it’s going to be a whole lot of fun over there in Chicago. Jason, why don’t you tell everybody what the people got coming up? >> We got a great episode for you guys. Uh, I will be representing the NH uh from CH 90ers. We’re going to react to the Tom Cruz episode.

 We got all of the week two in the NFL uh little reactions coming up here. Chiefs overtime win. Eagles come back in Nashville. Um, and then of course the highlight of this episode will be two absolute legends. Matthew McConna and Woody Harelson are here, >> baby. >> Yeah, that’s right. They’re going to talk about their new show, Brothers, some wild stories from their friendships, and uh, so much more.

>> All right. All right. All right. Let’s get into it with some of that new news. >> New news. >> New news is brought to you by Xfinity. And in case you missed it, we dropped our Tom Cruz episode last week on Friday. Did you know uh GMO Del Toro was a 90enter? Cuz I did not know that. He retweeted the following.

>> Travis and Jason understand the assignment. Showed up with their game face on and mopped the floor. Cool question, great vibe, lots of laughs, great conversation with uh Charisma King. >> Dude, this is awesome. Are you [ __ ] kidding me? >> Thanks uh Tweety Energy. >> Thanks to both. >> Yeah. And then uh Mr.

 Del Toro, >> lights, camera, action. All right. Um, is there anything we wish we would have got to? I I mean, listen, I could have talked to Todd. He’s one of the most >> like conversational human beings I’ ever met in my life without a doubt. Like even before the interview started, I’m like, dude, we could have been doing this podcast for the last hour.

 Like >> seriously, >> the night before that morning, >> he’s a very inquisitive human being. Like Tom has every time I’ve talked to him has like a genuine interest in like who you are, why you do what you do, how you do it, and it lends itself really really well to this type of format podcasting, >> especially when when you get them in person, man.

>> So, it was awesome to obviously talk about his movie Digger coming up. Uh we were more than happy to talk about that cuz we loved both screening that movie. I’m trying to think of like what I wish we would have asked him about and I don’t I don’t I wanted to ask him about all the right moves and uh whether whether or not that was the first uh time he had ever put on football pads.

We didn’t even ask him if he played ball. >> Yeah. I mean, it would have been nice maybe to get to that. >> Yeah. Do you remember this movie? >> Oh, I know what movie you’re referencing. Yes. >> So, it was So, he had on uh the neck roll with the the inner tube uh neck roll. You remember these things? >> Like the foam that would like go around.

How funny is it looking at old like football pictures, college games? That’s what I’m saying. It is so funny to look and see what football was. I was watching the water boy the other day. >> Yeah. >> And the Sandman is out there with his like hip pads. The pants, first of all, the pants don’t even fit.

 The knee pads are like down by the shins. The like thigh pads are like just above the knee. And like the the hip pads are sticking out of the >> the pants the pants and you could see them. >> Well, that’s what the hip pads used to be. That’s what I had them You had those at Roxboro Middle School. >> 100%.

 You would have to put them in the But you always put them over though. >> I always put my jersey and pants over like he would they were like sticking. >> I mean, he was doing it to be funny. Yeah. >> Right. But but that’s but if the jersey was short enough like that’s just how you know what I mean. Guys used to rock them back in the day.

 Do they still wear those style of hip pads in middle schools? Like is that still or right? That’s that’s long gone, right? >> It’s got to be. I feel like everybody nowadays has the >> like built-in hexopad like uh all that [ __ ] Yeah, that’s what I ended up using by my senior year of high school. For sure. >> I feel like I stopped wearing hip pads the moment they said you don’t have to wear hip pads.

 What other pads have been made obsolete? >> The forearm shivers, man. >> Dude, the forearm. That’s I wore those. You used to love those things. >> I was a big Rudy fan. I put the forearm shivers on. >> Rudy. >> It had like the cloth that would go through this figure so that it would stay on and it wouldn’t like go down. It was like a pad on the back of the hand all the way up the forearm.

>> Dude, the forearm shivers. Nothing said I’m about to fill the A gap like some forearm shivers. >> Yeah. Yeah. What else was there? There’s uh neck the neck roll is I mean it gets brought back every once in a while. Not as prevalent as it used to be. >> It’s still there. Uh I see guys rocking it every now and then.

 You’ll get some O linemen that that have stinger issues uh rocking the hump. You know what I mean? It’s not necessarily as much of like what >> the cowboy collar. >> The cowboy collar was crazy. >> Well, like cuz Saquon put it on this uh this past week. He got a stinger first play of the game and he had the cowboy collar on after that.

>> Nobody Nobody wears the cowboy collar that I see anymore where the jerseys up over it though >> like the water boy. I guess I did see Patrick. Patrick Ricard had a nice little neck roll going on. Ogle tree from the uh from the Colts had one on too. It’s definitely still in it where the the jersey comes over it, but the [ __ ] the one that like was like this dude is reckless and he is [ __ ] batshit crazy is the one that just used to be a backboard.

>> Yeah, >> just a backboard your head at all. >> Your head is just stuck. >> Do you So you don’t need to look right or left. You’re just going straight. Cool. >> It’s like a horse blinders. >> Mobility is not important. Just being able to run through somebody and not break your neck is important. >> Anybody with that thing was [ __ ] [ __ ] up.

>> People love the line of scrimmage talk with Tom. The football talk. I think we should do more football talk with more of our guests. We get a lot of people from entertainment that I think sometimes we try to really highlight their careers and things that we think you guys would be interested in, but it turns out you guys just want to learn about football.

So, that’s pretty cool. Uh, this is so good. Tom Cruz being randomly in this conversation makes it even better. So, let’s just keep bringing people into the the nerdiness of ball. What What would be another conversation to have with a The problem is the reason we did is cuz Tom was asking questions like he’s he’s just that type of guest.

>> Yeah. Yeah, if you get some good if you give us some good questions, we’re not we’re not afraid to talk some ball. Now, >> Nate Ty also commented on the football discussions. God, I would have lost it if Tom Cruz was like, “You got to look to see if the safety is capping the nickel.” >> You have to, man.

 Especially if you’re at the end of that uh that offensive line, man. >> It’s important. >> You got to make sure you keep the eyes over that. Listen, >> hey, >> we all got a job, but get somebody [ __ ] killed. >> Nowadays, it feels like he’s always capping the nickel. >> Yeah, there’s a lot of too high. What else do you look at the nickel? Do you look at anything else? >> Corner.

>> Pressed off and soft. DN tighter. Tighter. >> DN would be one. >> If the nickel’s pressed off when you’re split wide, that’s one thing I’ve always wanted to know. The receivers can tell when the corner is blitzing. They say k. >> Well, they’re never loud enough though. Go ahead. >> Well, Dvonte Smith would be loud enough.

He’d be screaming that [ __ ] I’d be like, “Oh, that corner is blitzing.” >> I’ve never even heard Dvonte talk. >> Yeah, I know. It’s surprising. That’s why I was That’s why it stands out to me. >> It’s like, “Oh [ __ ] what’ he say?” >> Oh [ __ ] Devonte’s talking. Oh, cat. Um, what is So, cat is a corner blitz.

 How do receivers know when that corner is blitzing? What’s What are they looking at? >> Most corners are savvy players, right? You get some savvy align. They won’t always just be right up in your grill with a great stance, >> right? It’s kind of like whenever uh you would try and like uh what is it you were talking about? Um >> Javon Hardgrave leaning or >> Yeah.

 Hard grave leaning and all this like uh you’re trying to like entice the the false start. >> Yeah. >> It’s kind of like you can you could tell a guy is doing a little bit something a little bit different. >> There’s a disturbance in the in the air. Something the force is is is misaligned. >> Another one is a deer in the headlights or deer in the lawn. Yeah.

>> All of a sudden, you just see him freezing, not looking anywhere. He’s just >> We used to call it statue players. If a linebacker was just standing there, not moving, just looking. >> Don’t look at me. No one looking. >> I’m not doing anything. >> I ain’t doing anything. Just hanging out over here, not looking suspicious.

>> Shout out Big Ed Kelsey for >> stopping by Operation Breakthrough uh story time. >> Dude, do you remember when dad used to read to us? I don’t. >> Do you remember, Dad? Why would Why do you read to everyone else except for me? >> Oh, so now that there’s cameras around, you read to the kids. Oh. >> Uh, no, man.

 He’s just he’s having a good old time over at Operation Breakthrough. Man, I’ll tell you what, man. It is fun to go over there, man. Those kids are they’ll light up your life, man. They’ll just make you feel the love and uh and how much they appreciate everyone that walks through those doors, man. But um shout out to Big Ed reading to the first graders.

 I think he came back this week and read to the second graders. >> So he’s uh he’s he’s on a reading tour, man. >> All right, we can get out of this segment. I think that is it for new news and it is brought to you by Exfinity. Travis, get us some bold topics, huh? >> Bold topics it is. Bold topics is brought to you by Allstate.

 That’s right. You’re in good hands with All State. >> You know who’s gotten out to a allstar is the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs 33 Colts 30 overtime victory in Arrowhead 2 and 0. Patrick Mahomes. >> 2 and0 feels real good, baby. >> What do we got? Mahomes 32 for 47 30 382 three touchdowns. Travis Kelce going over the century mark.

 Kenneth Walker going over the century mark. Tra, what are your thoughts on the game from this past week? >> I’ll tell you what, man. that Colts team, you better not sleep on them. >> Yeah, >> they can play some [ __ ] football, man. Um, >> they got good Dline, good O line, great running back. They’re wide receivers, man.

 Danny Dimes, they seem like they’re all on the same page. They got Keenan Allen over there, always finding a way to get open and underneath. And, you know, they got good tight ends. Warren, Tyler Warren is another one. He’s he’s a all allaround football player. You know, he’s he can inline block. he can stick his face in the fan and uh and block in line and then on top of that, man, he’s he’s a force with the ball and you know, he’s always going to he’s always going to finish downhill in terms of when he gets hit.

 So, um that’s that’s a good football team, man. But I’ll tell you what, I couldn’t be more proud of how our team reacted to to the to the level of play that they were playing at. They came out, wanted the ball, got seven early. We came out, did the same thing. It was just it was there was never a doubt in our mind that we were going to go and do our job.

 And obviously we got to clean a lot of things up. There’s there’s always something to do better. Uh especially when you have when you take a team into the last second into overtime to beat them. Um and we got to put up more touchdowns. You know, our defense is doing a good job holding them to three and outs there and I think like the third or fourth quarter, something like that.

 And uh we had opportunities to really, you know, put our foot on the gas pedal and and run away with it. But the way we’re playing football, how we’re playing together, how we’re showing up in big moments on big third downs. Can’t say enough about Taekquin Thornton coming up huge on on a on a couple big time third downs and the way Kenneth Walker is is leading our team right now in the run game, man.

 It’s uh that kind of energy is infectious. Yes. And and and it’s uh it’s it’s it’s leading us right now. It’s it’s making us play that much harder for him. >> Yeah. What do you think is the biggest reason? Like obviously last year the slow start 0 and2 all of a sudden 2 and 0. This year looks like a completely different team.

 What is it as simple as adding Kenneth Walker? Is there more to that? It looks like more under center the offense has changed quite a bit. >> It just feels like there’s a lot more unity and uh you know it may be just the the the over the summer and all the acquisitions that we got, not only the players, but the coaches, but just in the building, the determination and the mindset.

There’s there’s there’s a there’s a different feel from how we go to work during the week. >> Yeah. just our our chemistry in the locker room and on the field and uh and everybody’s just kind of playing off of each other and it’s a fun game when you’re doing that, man. You get everybody all in on on the the guys next to them success and you know playing their tail off for the for the mans next to him success.

 It’s just it’s so much more fun, man. And uh and that’s what you see right now. And then sure enough, man, you got Patty Mahomes out there, the Texas gunslinger, man. He was [ __ ] letting it rip. >> Right. Right. >> A few of them caught me off guard, man. I got to I got to get my [ __ ] head around. But man, he’s uh he’s putting the ball where it needs to be and he’s getting that ball out on time, which is really helping out the offensive line, too.

>> Speaking of getting the ball to the big yeti, we got this picture. The Yeti was out in Arrowhead. Colts brought him out. Who’s this guy grabbing on your jersey right here? Bringing the Yeti out. Oh, look at that photo. >> That’s hilarious. I have no idea. Might be our guy Sauce Garland. >> Oh, nice. There we go.

>> Friend of the show, friend of the Bearcats. Trap, we got to see. We got to show your touchdown. Let’s put up the Big Yeti touchdown for everyone to see in all of its glory. You want to walk us through what’s going on here? >> They’re in a cover four kind of just keep everything in front kind of defense.

 And >> yeah, >> cover four, the flats and the and underneath is going to be open. So, >> right, >> you got to find the void and then on top of that just be on time with the QB. Pat put it right on the [ __ ] money. Like I said, Pat was ball out on time, fast, in the guys hands as fast as possible and let them get some work after the catch and um sure enough, we got in the end zone there.

 Got Xavier blocking for me there on the outside and letting me get in the end zone. >> Not your best dive. You looked like you were in between. You wanted to dive or just run in. You kind of just >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, Xavier did a great job of getting a body on a body. I thought I was going to have to try and go over top and then I realized I didn’t and then I just look like a fat old guy trying to get me a zone.

>> Well, you didn’t look like a fat old guy the rest of the game. And we have a special edition of this touchdown for a lot of people that probably have not heard this. One of Trav’s favorites. We have the Korean call. Brandon, if you will. >> One of my favorites, >> dude. Let’s go, man. >> It’s just so much more electric.

 I don’t care if it’s like Korean announcers, Mexican announcers. Like, shout out >> to all the Chiefs fans over there in Korea, baby. Let’s go, man. Fire me up. >> So, internet is also running wild with Tra with Taylor celebration. Let’s take a look at this. >> My wife after I kill the spider that she saw in our house. Nice. Yeah.

 Listen, you know what I mean? Just doing my deed as a husband. me after failing to par parallel park in the same spot 10 times and he gets out to do it himself. That’s too good. >> Me when my husband actually finds all the right stuff at the grocery store without calling me nice. Internet’s having a good old time with this [ __ ] >> These are awesome.

>> My neurosurgeon bread winner wife watching me shotgun my 11th beer of the night. Let’s go, man. Listen, man. Proud wife, baby. You got to make my girl proud. >> My girl, when the tour guide at the historical site says that I ask very good questions, my wife, when I figure out which alarm is chirping due to low battery and swap it out, >> dude, >> that’s a big one.

 There’s nothing more annoying. >> I’m telling you, I [ __ ] hate that. >> Those smoke alarms. Oh, my wife after I get cut off an hour into the open part of the wedding. >> That’s him. He’s got to go home. But he he gave it his all. >> My wife after I break down seven delivery boxes without asking what in God’s green earth she ordered.

>> How I want my wife to react when I fix the Wi-Fi by unplugging it and plugging it back in. That’s That’s very good. >> That’s a banger. Yep. Very related. >> I am. >> What do we think about the Colts decision to kick the field goal in OT and give Pat another drive to win? Fourth and eight. Fourth and eight.

 I mean, obviously now that we’re talking about it right here, probably shouldn’t have done that. Probably should have gone for fourth. But, uh, >> see, that’s the thing when you know you’re going second. >> Yeah. >> By the way, by the way, >> yeah, we’re going to talk to We’re going to get to it. We’re going to get to it.

>> Coin toss was crazy. We’re We’re going to get to it. We’re going to get to it. >> You can’t baby We’re going to get to it. Let’s Let’s stay focused here first. It’s up next. >> That was so crazy. Um I think that when you do accept that you’re going to be the team going second and you have it in front of you on whether or not, you know what I mean? The decision is do I tie it? Do I win? Do I or do I, you know, try and guarantee myself the win.

I I just feel like you got to go for it. >> Yeah. No, I hear you. when you know what’s in front of you to win the game. >> In one instance, the game is in your control to try and win, >> right? In the other one, it’s like we’re basically getting a tie >> at best if we kick the field goal. The fourth and eight is a little one that gives me some of a pause.

>> Like I if I think if it’s fourth and five, it’s a no-brainer or less. >> Fourth and eight yards. No, >> I think fourth and eight. >> You got cuz you’re already in the red zone. You got to defend. That’s why I think but this that’s why I think >> you got to defend the end zone. >> That’s why I think eight is harder because the end zone is shrinking that distance where they were at.

 I’m saying I probably still would have gone for it too. I guess maybe I don’t know what I [ __ ] done. It’s easy for me to say now I would have gone for it. But I think if it’s fourth and five there’s a little bit more space with how condensed that area is because of the end zone. Fourth and eight.

 Those safeties aren’t going to be backing up very much man because of where it was in relation. I think they’re going to be if you think about red zone defenses, the hardest ones are the ones that are playing >> in the end zone and keeping everything in front. Yeah, >> because they don’t want anything in the like to give up in the end zone.

>> I think the safeties would have been in the end zone, but I think those hook to curl players would have been sitting at eight and there’s not going to be any space because of the condensed I don’t know. >> I don’t know, man. I don’t know. I think I think because you’re so close to the red zone, you can you got a quarterback that can sling it.

 Tight windows, a red z a good like a good red zone kind of defenses keep everything in front and even the underneath guys back up to like >> they used to call it red zone 7 where the guys would literally just sit right on the goal line and just keep everything in front of them. >> But I think that they would have treated that like the first down marker and then and the safeties would have been behind it.

 Either way, you I I’ll defer to you because you know way more about coverages. I just thought where they were at in the field makes fourth and eight even harder as opposed to being like if it would have been fourth and eight from the 40, it’s like, oh yeah, we’ll go for this all day. >> Yeah, I think fourth and eight overtime knowing that you got to score a touchdown to win the game.

 I think you I don’t know. I would I would be in favor of if like everybody in the class raise your hand if you want to go for it. I’d be like, >> “Yeah, >> let’s [ __ ] >> That’s kind of the way players always I I I would have always been go for it. Come on. >> Come on now, man. Really? >> I don’t want to give them the ball back.

I don’t want to give back. [ __ ] punt the ball to them.” >> Yeah. >> Let’s get to what you wanted to talk about. Uh before we I kind of put pause on it. We got a note question about the OT coin toss. This is what Trav was referencing. For those of you that don’t know, there were some shenanigans at the coin toss that Trav I’ll let you dive into.

 The NOTM question from BK Forreal 1989 is this week NOTM questions needs to address the defer situation because some dummies don’t understand it. Not just dummies, some players don’t understand it. Uh Brandon, uh can you ask the Bros on New Heights to break it down? Maybe encourage a good oldfashioned Jason. Oh, they want me to rant about it.

 I think Trav, you know more. I’ll I’ll throw him a rant, but yeah. So good. >> Patty Patty was locked in. He’s not Yeah. I’ll tell you what, I don’t even know if defer is something you could say in that situation. >> It’s not. >> So, by him saying defer, the ref was like, “That’s not one of your options.” >> For those of you that don’t know what the options are at the coin toss, at the beginning of the game, the ref will flip the coin.

 Whoever wins a toss has one of three options. You can either receive, meaning you taking the ball. You can either defer, which actually is meaning I want to choose in the second half whether I want the ball or not, or you can choose to kick. No one ever chooses kick because if you kick in the first half, you forfeit your choice in the second half and then the other team can get two extra an extra possession.

>> Tim Tibo, I believe, did kick. I think I think I he’s notorious for being the only person ever to say kick. >> No, no, no. There’s been more than that. There’s that’s actually been such a problem that at the kick at the coin toss now that the ref will like not even guess the same thing that happens cuz it’s happened so much.

 Guys [ __ ] it up that especially. >> Listen, man. That’s you’re in a big moment. If the coach is dumb ENOUGH TO PUT YOU out there and you’re [ __ ] this up, that’s on you. >> It’s a big moment. There’s a lot of eyes on you. Not a lot of people are used to that much, you know what I mean? Pressure to be say the right thing at the right time.

 It could like it could kind of like startle you in a second like wait, what did coach say? And then all of a sudden the pressure’s on the clock’s ticking. You’re just like, >> kick kick. Yeah, exact kick. >> Yeah. >> Well, and it’s it’s made worse too with like a lot of teams and I know Andy’s this way. A lot of it’s game day captains.

 So, like you get captains out there that aren’t even used to making these decisions and then all of a sudden they’re just like, “Oh, we want to kick.” It’s like, “Fuck, now we just lost a possession and do has.” So, >> this one’s a little bit different because like Trav said in overtime, defer isn’t even an option. Like, it’s not a choice you can make.

 You either take the ball or you there’s no second half to defer to. >> There’s no point in winning the the toss if >> Well, there’s nothing there’s no there’s nothing to defer to. The reason you defer >> the reason you defer in the first half is because you want to choose in the second half. There’s not a second half of overtime.

 So deferring is kind of pointless. But that’ll help him out in the regular one now, too. And I’m like, dude, I kind of on board with like you saying the wrong thing. I think you should be penalized for that. >> You should. We There ain’t no babying around here, man. We ain’t going to walk it through this. >> So that’s uh the shenanigans that happened at the coin toss.

 A lot of uh a lot of people don’t really know what’s happening. Trav >> J. Yak man. >> Boom. >> Boom. Sorry. >> I’m a Yak man. >> I was so fired up when I saw Brandon put that in the rundown. I thought it was genius. >> That was a brilliant segment. And I I appreciated that. >> We need a social edit from the team with Travis over Scatman Jim or whatever his name was face. I’m a yak man.

 We can definitely do some stuff with AI and all that stuff. Everybody loves AI, right? >> Um all right. Trap pass Marshall Fog for most yak yards of all time, which is [ __ ] crazy. >> This is by far the craziest and I I honestly like one of like the coolest >> Yeah. >> accomplishments I’ve ever had. Did you know you were this close? >> I had no idea I was even in the ballpark.

>> Yeah, I this came out of nowhere. >> I didn’t know I was top five, top 10, top like ever. Like I didn’t I would have I would have guessed there were so many more. And it’s kind of ironic that it’s a running back that leads this list. I mean, obviously Terrell Owens was on there as well.

 Larry Fitz was on there as well. Um I mentioned it to uh to a few reporters after the game. It’s like I grew up watching a guy like Terrell Owens take slants to the [ __ ] house and being like, “Man, it must be really cool to be that fast and do that kind of stuff with the football in your hand.

” You know what I mean? Like I like I looked at Larry Fitz was like one of the first college football games I ever went to. It was when you were getting recruited by Pittsburgh and we went to that Notre Dame pit game. Seeing him in person, I was like, man, that’s a big son of a buck like running around and just unbelievable at football.

 and to be in the conversations with those guys and like to be in like just that world. Uh um obviously I’m not saying that I’m any bit of the same player as the those guys, but I’m what I’m saying is that it’s pretty cool to be in the conversations of a stat like this. Now, obviously I’ve had unbelievable play calling.

 I’ve had unbelievable players around me blocking downfield. you don’t get this kind of stuff without having the the guys around you to to help you get these yards. But at the same time, man, it’s a pretty cool uh pretty cool stat to be a part of that when I got the ball in my hands, I’m doing I’m doing, you know, the most I can with it.

 And it’s it’s proven throughout the the history of the NFL that I’ve been uh I’ve been pretty good at it. So, I think this is the greatest record you have. I really do, dude. Yak Yak was and it’s I guess I don’t hear it referenced as much nowadays. He’s like Yak when we were growing up was like a huge stat that everybody talked about like this guy not only does it catch the ball but what do you do after you get it? How much are you adding to the play yourself? Um absolutely insane.

 Marshall Faulk, Terrell Owens, Larry Fitz, like all the guys that were also up there in the top five. And to think that you’re the number one player in the history of the NFL with the most yards after catch is [ __ ] crazy. It’s It’s awesome. It’s It least bun stat I think you could have. >> Damn. I’m the yak man. >> I’m the yak. Yes, you’re the yak man.

>> My guy Harry Clark had me take a take a shot of some yak. >> Oh, there you go. There you go. >> After the game with him, man, that was pretty. >> Love it. Andy Reid, shout out. Um, I see Kelsey broke another record. Hangs around long enough, uh, he’ll break all of them, which >> That’s the thing about records.

>> That is pretty true. >> You play long enough, you’re gonna get close to to some records, man. Um, shout out to Big Red for dialing me up. >> I didn’t think Marshall would be number one in Yak when you think about it. But when you do like go back to the plays in your head of what made him so special, he was like the greatest pass catching running back of all time >> ever.

 Not and I don’t think it’s even close. >> No. Yeah. So, and all of those a lot of those are little flat routes that he’s making guys miss and freaking taking to the house screams. >> Give him one man to beat. Give him one man. Get him in a situation where he’s got to make one guy miss and you’re [ __ ] cooking. It was a huge part of the greatest show on turf because you couldn’t just put safeties back there and like the second level guys like dropping coverage because you got to deal with [ __ ] Marshall Faulk underneath. Dude, I always thought when

we had similarly when we had Darren Sprouls, we would be doing all these things and all this. I was like, “Hey guys, how about when it’s man covered, you just put the ball into Darren’s hand out in the flat because ain’t no [ __ ] chance a 250 lb linebacker is going to tackle that [ __ ] in the open space.

” Like, what are we even talking about right now? All right. Only player in NFL history to record at least 12,000 rushing yards and 6,000 receiving yards in his career. Marshall Faulk. I mean, just the greatest all-purpose back of all time. Jesus. Some other highlights. We got EMTT Johnson made three Colts tackle themselves.

 Let’s take a look at this. >> Hey, [ __ ] Let’s [ __ ] go, man. >> Breaking ankles like that, >> shush. >> Oh, man. This guy has shown up every single chance he’s gotten and he is really opening some eyes, man. And it’s cool to see how he attacks the day. Now granted, he’s got a [ __ ] allp pro right in front of him.

 All pro athlete, all pro, you know what I mean? How he handles his job, how professional he is in the building, how hard he works in practice. He’s seeing how it’s done the right way and how that’s being, you know what I mean, reciprocated onto the field. All he knows is this. So, it’s cool to see him get that leadership in that room from a guy like Kenneth Walker.

 But at the same time, man, he’s uh he’s taken his opportunities and he’s absolutely ran with it and he’s [ __ ] having fun out there, man. He’s having fun out there making plays for us, man. >> No doubt. I mean, it’s it’s been fun watching him and you can only do with the opportunities you’re given, right? And it’s awesome to see a guy obviously he’s got an incredible player, best running back in the league probably through the first two weeks um in front of him, but you still, you know, you got to make do with what you get.

 And he’s making the most of the opportunities he is getting. It’s been great to see all of these new pieces. EMTT Johnson, obviously, Kenneth Walker, a little Dline running back option. How about Kyus Tonga? >> Come on, KT. Come on, big dog. >> Let’s see the big man in action. >> Yeah, let’s go. >> What’s funny is for years you guys have been doing that with a halfback because you don’t have a fullback and you and sometimes not even a halfback in the back field.

 just moves up into that little offset position and you run the fullback dive play. Now we actually got one in the game and Buddy is coming downhill like a freaking freight train. >> Good luck stopping that for a yard. My good. >> He’s done a great job on a lot of the short yardage stuff on just blocking. And sure enough, man, in coach Reed’s offense, if you’re going to go out there and and and play play your tail off, man, he’s going to find a way to get you the ball in a in a situation where it’s it benefits your uh your uh your skill

set, man. >> Fullbacks are coming back and I mean, listen, I this is another example of how much the Chiefs offense has shifted. I mean, short yardage, this this play hasn’t shifted. This is a play you guys have been running since Andy Reid in the dawn of time of him being in Kansas City.

 who ran it in Philadelphia, but so much more is under center. So much more. Now there’s a fullback incorporated, actual fullback, not a makeshift player. Uh the power you guys are running on more power than I think anybody else in the league it looks like. Um it has been awesome to watch all this stuff and I want to see more Kyus Tonga.

 I like I’m I like the fullback. >> Come on now, baby. >> I like the man in the back field. Come on. >> Electric, man. >> All righty. Well, listen. Chiefs head to Miami next. Outstanding game uh start to the season really. I mean it’s been probably could not have been better for the Kansas City Chiefs. Huge rebound from last season.

 You excited to go to South Beach? >> Yeah, it’s going to be even more humid than it is here. I heard it’s uh it’s like 20% more humidity down in Florida. Um we’ve been we’ve been working through some dog days in terms of the humidity here in KC. But um there’s nothing like going down there to old South Florida. I’ve I trained there a little bit.

 Uh maybe not South Florida, but or maybe not South Beach or Lauderdale, but I I train down in Florida in the offseason, so I I’m familiar with it. And man, you can uh you better go down there hydrated and uh and uh and fueled up, man. We know Miamiy’s uh they’re they’re searching for a win. All right. All right. Can’t wait to watch it.

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 All State North American Insurance Company affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. Let’s get to a little Eagles verse Titans. Eagles 24, Titans 20. How about it, man? >> I was not expecting the uh the Eagles Titans game to be that close. But um >> yeah, I don’t think anybody wanted it to be that close from Philadelphia.

>> I’ll tell you what, a lot of good things to take take out of it, though. >> Here’s the reality. I think uh it’s hard to win in this league and take them how you get them. They’re playing. I think there was like a reading. It was like 140 or something like that on the turf or some stupid [ __ ] Like people were pouring water on their [ __ ] cleats.

It was nuts down there. And this is a guy that I mean, Robert Salah, he’s beaten us twice. He beat us with the Jets who we all know how good the Jets have been, right Jake? And then he also they beat us last year in the playoffs when he was in DC over in uh in San France. So Salah’s defenses have has given us issues in particular.

They’ve given Jaylen issues in the past, which is one of the reasons I was so happy actually in the game to see Jaylen play. So, I know you had the early pick six. You had another pick where Jeffrey Simmons almost took his head off while he was throwing it. Uh, that one a little bit more understandable.

 But overall, I mean, through the first two games, Jaylen is the reason why they have won these two games. He has played in big moments. He’s delivering the ball from the pocket. He’s making big time throws in this game. in this game in particular, man. Dantavian Wixs going off in both games.

 They obviously have chemistry right away. Unfortunately, Goddard goes down. He was having a great season up until the uh the injury in this one. >> God, hate that for Dallas. >> I I just, you know, it’s been awesome to see Jaylen uh play the way he has, especially against a defense like this that has really all they’ve done really is rush forward, push the pocket, keep Jaylen in the pocket, and make him throw against his own coverages.

 and he executed so well. Um so very happy for that part of the game. >> Well, 26 for 37 for 264, two tubs. Um that’s a pretty damn good game, man. And like you were saying, man, when it when it mattered most, he was putting the ball where it needed to go, getting the ball out. >> Well, not only when it mattered most, but those stats don’t even tell you like they had the running game again was pretty non-existent.

 Like there was so many third down conversions. I think they’re the number one team in third down yardage this year. And a lot of the reason for that is that they have to be. They’re in third in ridiculous situations at a a a high clip. Now, I I like I they have nowhere to go but up in first and second down right now. But I think what what Jaylen has done and the circumstances he’s been given and how well he’s executed, I think is really really well done.

 I’m glad you agree, Ellie. away, girl. Witty, go birds. Um, I want to ask you, well, hit me. So, 2,000yard rusher, Saquon Barkley, what is why is it like to to the fans that are like, why isn’t a 2,000 yard rusher every like, why is it just a one thing? Like, you know what I mean? Like for 2,000 yards every year. >> Yeah.

 Like, why like what is the what is what do you think is the biggest thing? Is it just like I mean >> just it’s it’s hard to [ __ ] go back to back and have that much success in in the league or >> let’s take the 2,000 yard mark out cuz I think that’s a incredible achievement. Let’s just say a a great running game, right? So from the 2,000yard rushing season Saquin had in his first season with the Eagles dating back to really since Jaylen has been with the Philadelphia Eagles, the Eagles were a top five, number one, number two, number three team in the league rushing. A big

reason for that and this is one thing that I get I get upset with and I I think Jeffrey Simmons is an amazing player and I get a lot of the analysts that try to evaluate Jaylen and they say like the quarterback. A big reason for that run game being so dominant is Jaylen Herz and he has never gotten enough credit for that.

 He’s a big reason why the offense has been able to function and it was way different. It was not the complex things that the McVeys and all these other guys do, but it was a really highly functioning offense for a long time. Now, the passing game started to dwindle the last couple years. Obviously, they need to make a change, but the quarterback’s threat to keep the ball that gives you all you want in the run game is numbers to where they don’t have an extra player and you want angles. You want leverage.

The quarterback being a threat to run the ball gives you that because you have added another player that can keep the ball whether it’s a designed run or a read and you you can’t be predictable with any of it otherwise you’re going to get assassinated. This is a different >> center stuff though. Yeah, >> this is a system this year and and last year I really think this is all also one of the reasons they were one of the best running teams in the NFL.

 It’s because they had one of the best offensive lines like there the offensive line was very healthy for a long time. We had a lot of continuity last year. Landon Dickerson’s hurt all over the place. Cam Jurgens is hurt. Lane Johnson misses a bunch of games. It’s really hard to be a great running team when you have guys in and out of the lineup.

 You have backups playing. It’s it’s difficult no matter who the running back is in what the situation is. And then you compile that with Jaylen Herds not running the ball as much. So then teams aren’t at feeling as threatened in that category. So you’re not getting the same advantageous looks. All of that is why last year. This year they’re going to a different system.

 Now, there were more shotgun runs this last week. There was more of like the, you know, 1×3, you know, you got the bubble screen over here and the re like >> it was, they had a little bit more of that in this last week it looked like. >> Um, but in general, the offense is going to be more under center. It’s more of the Shawn uh uh McVey, Matt Laflur, that whole tree.

 And the way they get numbers and angles is by utilizing formations, by utilizing boots, and you gain numbers with motions and shifting guys around and improving angles that way. So, it’s just a different way to do it. They’re still working on it and they’re having the same thing happen that happened last year.

 Landon Dickerson was hurt the first game of this year of the year. It didn’t go well up front that game now. And I feel I really do feel bad for Cam Jurgens. Cam has been playing center for the last two years. He Yeah, he played guard, right guard uh my last year in 2023. Now all of a sudden he’s going to go play left guard against probably the if not the best one of the top.

>> He is a dog. That dude is a house. >> He is a [ __ ] beast. >> You see that man walk onto a football field in his uniform, bro. You’re just like, god damn, what the [ __ ] are we about to get into today? And not only is he a beast, he’s he’s a very bad matchup for a guy that stature-wise really isn’t a guard.

 And that’s kind of what the Eagles have unfortunately in their depth right now. Atlanta’s not in there. They don’t have another 340 lb man to plug in there and to be a stout. >> Yeah, they don’t. Your options are either slide Cam Jurgens over, you put Drew Kendall in at guard, which they obviously elect to do Drew at center because Cam had played guard at a high level, or you put Willie Lampin in.

 And Willie is very stout, but that is a another wild card. It’s really not the best case scenario. Like, they don’t have a true guard that has played a lot of snaps in the league that is what you want in the stature of the position and measurables. And Jeffrey Simmons was wreaking havoc, man. it. He’s a good player.

>> I think that’s that’s a tough situation for Cam to be put in. You know, I thought Drew played pretty well. >> Uh but everybody kind of had their turn. >> Uh but yeah, I think Cam having to go do that on the road against a premier player like that. Very tough situation to be put in. >> Um >> he prevailed. >> Well, >> he prevailed.

>> The team prevailed. I don’t know. >> That’s all. Listen, maybe we’re out. He ain’t out there alone. I don’t give a [ __ ] that. [ __ ] that. He ain’t out there. Simmons had his plays. Simmons had his plays. >> Listen, man. It’s like [ __ ] what are you going to do? Shaq’s going to be in the paint.

 We got to figure out a way to win. >> All that being said, the run game this year, they’re still getting used to the If you put on the tape and maybe this is something we can dive into, Aaron, I know we talked about doing some teach tape. I’d love to dive into some of these runs and talk about what’s going right, what’s going wrong.

 You know, I think that they’re still getting used to the angles, how everything hits. Uh, it is a different offense and every rep you get, you just get a little bit better and more dialed in in your aiming point where where the landmark is on the outside zone. The guard needs to get on top of the three technique and keep pushing to that front side number, right? If you go too far, it’s going to split the double team or get behind you.

If you go too light little, then all of a sudden you’re not displacing it enough or he’s you’re the ball’s going to go outside you and he’s going to be there to make the play. Yes, >> there’s so many little such small things that make a big deal in the run game working. And another reason the run game is so hard just in general is that everybody’s got to be on the same page and run and going in the same lane.

 Like listen, you got Randy Moss and you got a good quarterback, you’re probably going to have a pretty good passing game. >> You’re going to throw that [ __ ] up to him. There’s no running game in the league that has one good offensive lineman and one good like they all got to be doing their [ __ ] and it’s all got to be in sync and I think they’re still getting used to that.

 It’s become compounded by having to slide Cam out to a position that he hasn’t played and wasn’t comfortable this last week playing a player like Jeffrey Simmons. But I anticipate this to get better. I do. And I think that once the run, what’s the most encouraging to me is that if Jaylen is playing like this the way he has the two first two weeks, that run game gets going, it’s going to be a very fun offense to watch.

 Uh once that gets improved this season, >> well, you guys got another allp pro out of wide out. Might not be Randy Moss, but Smitty is a dog. >> Slim Reaper. >> Slim Reaper is a dog. He’s he had 10 receptions for 117 and a touchdown. the guy is just he’s so smooth, man, in his routes and he’s and he’s he can make every catch there is.

 Um it was good to see him get out there and uh and and get dirty a little bit. It’s just good to see Jaylen have a connection with a guy out there knowing they lost an unbelievable player in the in the past game, you know, and it’s good to see him go out there and find somebody, connect with somebody um and and still have success in the past game the way they’ve had these first two games. It was hot.

You’re talking about pouring water on cleats. It was hot, man. The everybody. The squirt squad was out there. >> Squirt squad was out. Yeah, >> the squirt squad was out there, man. I forgot about the squirt squad, man. >> Oh my gosh. >> That was a B. That’s taking it back to the first year, man. Look at this.

 What is this, bro? >> I’ve never seen this. >> They they I talked to some of these guys. The turf was so hot. Trav, >> listen. This is another reason. Do So, do you know in Nashville? Do you know in Nashville what the turf is? >> Uh, I mean it’s field turf. It’s turf turf. >> No, they have a [ __ ] So instead of the rubber pellets, I don’t know if it’s changes changed since since I’ve last played there.

 Instead of the rubber pellets, they’re you they use cork. >> Oh, nice. Does that heat up more than the rubber pellets? >> I I have no idea. >> Yeah, I >> But I also think that’s bogus. But turf in general >> radiates heat more than [ __ ] grass ever will. I will say there were a number of guys that look like they were slipping in the game.

 I don’t know if that has to do with the cork. I Dude, when you get on that turf and it’s hot and your feet start burning, that [ __ ] sucks. I This is another reason I’m out on the turf, man. [ __ ] whatever. Let’s not get We don’t need to get on turf. Um I was like on WIP or something like that earlier in the week.

 They’re like, “Oh, you think the heat’s going to make a difference?” I was like, “Ah, everybody’s playing the heat.” And then in the [ __ ] TV copy, they had like a thermometer and it said 157 degrees when you pointed it at the turn. I like what the [ __ ] How is that even possible? >> You shouldn’t be allowed to do that.

 You shouldn’t be allowed to put players on a field that does that. >> I think Jurgens said he switched cleats maybe like three times or something like I I that’s crazy to me that it was >> Why? Like why? Like that’s so insane to me that that is allowed. Like you’re allowed to put the product in a situation like that.

 NFL’s got to [ __ ] they got to figure something out for [ __ ] like that. That’s insane. >> We got to get some air conditioned fields. Come on guys, we can we can do it. >> Yeah, we got to get something like I understand if the turf drains water, but how does it [ __ ] handle heat? Somebody said in the comments on Twitter or something like that that you put uh like aluminum foil or tin foil under the like insole and somehow that deflects the heat down which I thought >> doesn’t make any [ __ ] sense.

>> No, it does make sense because it radiates the heat back downward. I’m telling you sense. It makes sense. Just got to think about >> No, if you put a little bit of foil in the in the heat >> deflects the heat cuz it’s like a heat shield. No, no, it deflects the heat back down. >> It’s not coming from the ground.

 Yes, it is. It’s coming from the turf. It’s coming from the sun. >> No. Well, it’s coming from the sun heating the surface on the floor, which is why the bottom of your shoe hurt is hot. >> No, your shoes hot because of the rubber because of the pellets. >> I think that there is some legitimacy to this claim.

 Knowing that >> a little tip for hot turf, put aluminum foil under your insert in your cleat. >> I think it will deflect the heat. Uh, a little tip for hot turf. Don’t [ __ ] put turf down on the [ __ ] football field and it won’t get hot enough to where you have to put aluminum [ __ ] foil under in your [ __ ] shoe.

 This is so dumb. This is so dumb. Tennessee is a [ __ ] lovely place. They get they get they kind of get four seasons, but they kind of don’t. You could easily put grass down. Easily. Eagles head to Chicago next week to face the uh maybe Caleb Williams and the Bears. Uh Caleb was carded off. >> I will bet every dollar I have that Caleb Caleb Williams doesn’t play in this game.

>> Doesn’t. >> Dude, there’s no [ __ ] way he got carded off with a hamstring injury. There’s no chance. >> If he ripped it off the bone, that’s not a fun >> He didn’t. >> It’s not fun. >> Here’s No. Well, he wouldn’t be weak to weak. He’d be out. He’d be on IR if he ripped it off the bone. I just think the only way like he was crying with the towers in.

So the only way that happens is if you thought it was ripped off the bone on the field, right? Cuz if it’s ripped off the bone, hamstring injuries like don’t go [ __ ] on hamstring injuries. Like those things [ __ ] suck. And if you rip it off the bone, that can be like a careering injury. >> Don’t Yeah. [ __ ] that.

 Well, if he has that kind of reaction, that leads me to believe it was pretty [ __ ] serious down there on the field. And the fact that the MRI came back better than you would think, I still like playing with a hamstring that hurt that bad in the moment. Hammies don’t usually heal up like that.

 And it’s going to be a naggy one, I bet. I would be shocked if he plays this week. Coming from Dr. Kels. >> Dr. Kels, the man who tore his hamstring and still finished the beer bowl. I was about to say I got a grade two and kept playing beer pong. Caleb >> beer pong. >> Really active hamstring activity. >> Hate to see it, man. Hate to see it.

>> Either way, it’s going to be a tough test. Bears uh put up 50 what? Nine the first week. >> Yeah, they ran the [ __ ] out of the ball the first week. >> Correct. And they’re the both running backs and the offensive line, I believe, is still healthy. They’re still going to be a very good team.

 Ben Johnson is one of the best schemers in the league. Um, big test for the Eagles Monday night. I can’t wait because I get to go and I get to get some of that Chicago food, too. Oh my god, >> it’s the best. >> It’s so good. >> I haven’t been to Chicago in a while, man. >> Dude’s great. >> [ __ ] >> Food is so good, >> man. I [ __ ] I do love that city.

>> I wish they still had the Disney Quest. >> I wish they did, too, man. That >> Disney Quest. The ESPN zone. >> ESPN zone was [ __ ] legendary. It made me love that city even more. Well, Eagles bringing back Zack Z. You you mentioned Dallas Gddard uh unfortunately is uh is out for a little bit, but um they get a they get a dog back in the in the Eagles jersey, baby.

>> Yeah, it’s I’m sad for Dallas cuz Dallas is having a great year. >> Just say I’m sad. I mean, it sucks. Shouldn’t say sad. He’ll be fine. It sucks that he’s going to be out, but I am Listen, I’m always excited to see 86 in some >> midnight green, especially if he breaks this record.

 What is it? Zach is uh he’s just 11 receptions away from breaking Harold Carmichael’s franchise career record for catches. >> Yeah. Damn. >> Yeah, baby. I mean, listen, I think if anybody was going to break that record, I’d be happy that it was Zach. I do love Harold, though. One of my all-time faves. Harold, dude, Harold was a Pro Football Hall of Fame.

 Well, I guess he wasn’t in the Hall of Fame when he used to do this, but he used to when I first got to Philly, Harold would be spotting the ball. >> Guy just loves ball, man. >> Dude, he’d be catching the ball and be putting it down. And I [ __ ] I I just thought it was the coolest thing in the world.

 I’m out here at Harold Carich spotting the ball. Dude, one of one of the best game, baby. >> One of the best guys of all time. >> Well, you got two of them. Zack, one of the best guys of all time. Friend of the show, friend of the tight ends, tight ends rule. You’re looking to see Zack out there [ __ ] ripping it here soon with the Eagles jersey.

>> Let’s go. >> Well, let’s get to the rest of week two. All right, week two in the books. We were a little premature week one talking about offenses are back. Week two scoring went back down. >> Way down. Chicago Bears 59 points one week, three points the next or whatever they end up.

 Yeah, I mean it’s defense has caught on quick. And there’s also been some crazy uh 0 and2 2 and 0 starts. The Raiders 2 and 0. Chargers 0 and2 Kansas City Chiefs, how about that? 0 and2 to start last season, 2 and 0 this year. The Vikings upsetting the Bears to be 2 and 0 with Carson Wentz. I’ve heard that guy before. >> How about it up there letting it rip with the Vikes, man? I love it.

 Bengals might have officially found themselves a defensive line to really solidify the Bengals being back as a premier contender. Sexy Dexi, he might have been the uh the most improved defensive signing this offseason and not some of the other big names we saw. Uh what else we want to talk about? >> Um Aaron Donald. >> Yep.

 Made his debut last night with the Rams. I saw him before the game and I was like, man, I am so happy I don’t got a block right now. This is great. He was still jacked as [ __ ] He looks every bit about it. >> Did he score? >> No, he didn’t have He was He was playing well, but he wasn’t having like a lot of like impact plays. Don’t get it twisted.

It looked like he still can go. That’s what I thought. That was my takeaway. >> Well, you were uh you were having some fun with the great one. >> Yeah, baby. Normally at halftime, we’re kind of done. And uh Pat was like, “Hey, you want to go hang uh you want to go see Gretzky?” I was like, “Are you [ __ ] kidding me?” >> Do I? >> I will never turn that down.

He really is the greatest, man. Not only just on not only on the skates, man, but he is just the [ __ ] coolest, man. >> Undoubtedly, man. And and we’ve said this before. I only had two posters in my on my walls growing up in Cleveland Heights. One was a uh Mark Magguire Sammy Sosa poster that honored that year that they broke the home run record in the race.

 And the other one was that jersey right there. That’s right. It wasn’t that picture. Rangers >> Wayne Gretzky poster, which I don’t know if that’s the preferred Wayne Gretzky poster jersey, but that’s what I had. So, it’s still surreal to me whenever I’m around him. Like, it’s just like crazy. >> Yeah.

 Why his wife, his son, uh Trevor, >> shout out to Janet. >> Janet was telling the story about you guys golfing. >> You got to love it, man. It’s the only golf match I’ve ever won, >> by the way. Probably the nicest box I’ve ever seen in my life. That sweet was insane. Listen, Sofi is >> They did a good job with that stage. >> Sofa, they fig they figured some [ __ ] out over there.

>> Yeah, it’s got turf, but whatever. It’s got a good >> It’s got turf. It’s got a magnifying glass over the top, but it’s outside. It’s nice. >> Got the second piss missile from Tom Brady on a broadcast. >> Come again. >> Play the clip. >> Life was one. Absolute piss missile. >> Did you feel like that was a piss? >> I don’t think that’s a piss missile.

That’s a great throw, but like a piss missile to me is like >> absolute piss missile up the sideline. >> Is that a piss missile to you? >> It’s a [ __ ] >> It’s a great throw. It’s an incredible throw. >> It’s an incredible throw. >> But when I think of piss missile, I think of like see the football. >> It it a piss missile to me is like almost like the moment it left the quarterback’s hand, it didn’t it didn’t go down or up at all.

 It just like was a straight like line. >> There’s a little bit too much arc for this to me. But either way, incredible throw >> to be honest. An absolute piss missile down the sideline is a great sound bite. I guess >> I’m just saying. Who cares? It’s [ __ ] awesome. It deserves that kind of credit. >> Yeah, the throw definitely deserved the good hype and you gave it that.

 So, I’m with you. >> Iris Chatsky now has been defeated. >> Oh, that’s right. Jets Jake >> Jets Jake’s beautiful, beautiful baby girl has been defeated by the Green Bay Packers. Her undefeated victory record lasted longer than most expected, but did it still only last one week. Um >> Um, >> look at this P.

 This is a great >> guys. I mean, this is what he does. This is what this is what he gets paid to do. He’s he’s an expert. >> This is Emily. This is Emily. It’s not Jake. Oh. Oh. M. M. By the way, everybody, Jake Jake is back. Welcome back to the show, Jake. >> Hi, I’m back. >> All righty. How was How was paternity leave? >> Paternity leave was unbelievable, Jason.

Thank you both so much for uh advocating for it, for never making me feel like I was missing out on anything. >> That’s what kind of show we are, Jake. That’s what kind of people we are. >> We would never do that. >> No. being so publicly supportive of absolutely the paternity leave process. It it really it was great.

 I I should say you guys have been awesome this entire time. Uh and it’s been the entire company has been really awesome. It’s been great getting to know my daughter. >> It looks like Iris has not been sleeping very much. Your eyes are now as closed as they are you >> night. Yeah. >> Yeah.

 LA last last night was a little the last two nights were were rough nights, but it’s been we’re honestly we’re adjusting to like me going back to work and the best way that I can continue to help Emily take care of our baby in the best way possible. But yeah, t couple of 2 3:00 a.m. nights, you know, we’ve all been through it. It’s fine. >> Yes.

 Do you have Have you developed any strategies yet? >> Uh no. Um I I mean uh the biggest thing is that >> it’s very early. >> Still early. The uh the biggest thing we’ve discovered is that the like yoga ball that we got for Emily during pregnancy, you just bounce on that holding the baby, >> that has worked like a charm. But that does suck when it’s like 2:00 in the morning and you’re just [ __ ] >> bouncing on a ball non-stop.

>> Do you have Do you have a rocking chair? Do you have a rocking chair? >> We do. We do have a rocking chair which has been great especially for the mornings. Uh but she doesn’t like it as much as the wall. So >> Got it. >> Yeah. And like the second she does the thing where like the second you put her down, she immediately starts crying even if she’s asleep in your arms.

 But so it’s all it’s all wonderful. Honestly, I like I couldn’t love it anymore. >> All right, I’m going to put I’m going to pose a challenge to you. New dad. I need you to find a song that you play and no matter what anytime you play it, she gets you can get her to stop crying. >> So there there’s there’s songs out there. Go ahead.

>> There there have been a couple like there have been a couple that have worked so far. the funniest one by far. She does like, you know, she does a a baby reflex with her hands where she’ll like start punching and I could not get her to calm down one night. So, I played Beat That Beat Up by DJ Paulie D >> instantly like catatonic.

>> Apparently, she’s not a party girl, but uh Beat that beat up worked wonders. >> That’s been that’s been in the go-to for >> Keep it in the rotation. Yeah, >> that’s too funny. All right, that’s awesome. >> Happy to be back even if the Jets absolutely choked last week. >> Just like punching yourselves in the own in your own dick.

>> That type of >> not explaining that to her yet, but she >> Well, yeah, she she won’t get that. She’ll she might never get that one, but yeah. Anyway, >> I hope not. >> Anyways, thanks for having me back. Happy to be here. >> Love you, Jake. >> All right, big guy. Good luck to Iris and the Jets as they take on the Lions.

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>> They’re not playing it as much as I thought they would. >> I I thought they were only going to play like once or twice every time they went to a commercial, but they’re actually playing it three times. Yes. >> Every commercial, which is pretty cool. And to see you do a piouette with chips.

 Yeah, it’s good [ __ ] Um Sean McVey, maybe maybe a >> for a great postgame quote. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Sometimes you have dumbass coach that makes travel plans >> that put you in a bad spot. That’s hilarious. He’s a good man. He’s a good man for making light of the situation. >> Yeah. I mean, whether it was a thing or not, it’s fun to I think it’s always important for leaders to take ownership and accountability like and even if that who knows if that was the reason, but I think that players see that.

 You know what I mean? I think it’s good. >> Who are you thinking? You got any good ones? >> I mean, I like the hot diggity dog from Isaiah Rogers. I’m not going to lie. >> You know what the hot diggity dog is? >> No. >> Yeah. That’s how you you could tell you don’t you’re not in that Mickey Mouse Clubhouse quite yet, Trav.

So, the hot diggity dog is a song they play right before Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. So, Isaiah Rogers gets a little recovery here and starts hitting the hot diggity dog. He said, “Told my son I’d do it for him.” >> Nice.

 That’s good [ __ ] That’s my kind of celebration right there. >> That’s a banger. >> All right, Trev, where you going? >> I’ll give my stamp of the week to Cleveland, baby. Shout out to the Browns for getting a dub, but more so shout out to the guards taking the division right now. We we’re up a game over the White Socks trying to get my guys to get that first place in the division, which will also uh get them a buy in the uh or yeah, a buy in the first uh roundoff playoffs.

 Man, >> we’re in Boston this week and then we’ll be in Kansas City. I’ll catch my boys at the end of the week in KC. But God, man, fighting uh fighting your way back into the division leaders, man. You get my stamp of the week, boys. >> Well done, guys. All righty. Stamp of the week was brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.

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Device and content restrictions apply. And now for what everybody has been WAITING FOR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, please welcome Matthew McConna and Woody Harelson. How about it? [ __ ] crazy to even say. >> What a world we live in. >> OUR GUESTS TODAY ARE ACTORS, WRITERS, PRODUCERS.

 THEY HAVE ACADEMY AWARDS, SAG AWARDS, GOLDEN GLOBES. YOU KNOW THEM FROM THEIR WORK IN WHITE MEN CAN’T JUMP, HOW TO LOSE A GUY IN 10 DAYS, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN, INTERSTELLAR, DALLAS BUYERS CLUBS, CAKEPIN, WOLF OF WALL STREET, THE HELER GAY, ZOMBIE LAND, AND TRUE DETECTIVE, AND NOW THEIR UPCOMING APPLE ORIGINAL SERIES BROTHERS 90%ERS.

 PLEASE WELCOME THEM MR. MATTHEW MCCONN AND WOODY HARELSON. >> There we go. Baby, come on. >> Take this intro on the road. >> Beat that in. Yeah. You want to do that one more time? Hear you that one, man. >> Yeah. >> How are we doing, guys? >> Good, man. We just got together here in New York. >> I mean, gez, we spent months together, dude.

 We hadn’t seen each in what, about a month and a half. >> About a What’s it, man? >> So, now we’re going to go out with brothers and and talk about it, share it, declare it, and see. Hopefully, people dig it and uh talk to people like yourself. >> Let’s talk about the show. What What are we in store for? What’s what what’s going on with brothers? >> Start off with the inception.

>> Yeah. Well, the original concept was like, well, okay, I’ll tell you what happened was uh in reality, we were in Greece uh and >> about nine years ago. >> Yeah. And uh Matthew’s mom, mom, what we call her, she’s uh you know, >> she’s about four Kendall Jackson’s in. >> Four Kendallles.

 And uh I might have slipped her little herby herby. And >> took her off with wood earlier. >> Yeah. which was which wasn’t the fourth time they’ve done that. >> Yeah. The very first time we set off a fire one, but that’s enough. >> My mom and him have been kicked out of two different clubs. We’re getting my mom’s 94. >> It’s true.

 It’s true. But anyway, uh she says uh you know I I was talk I mentioned my father and she goes, “I knew your father.” Now that’s only four words, right? But >> think about this. That ellipses is loaded. I knew it was more than three dots. It’s like five. >> We had sixyear-olds there that they even knew that that innuendo meant they shag. >> That ellipses.

THEN WE’RE LIKE, “OH.” And I’m like, “Oh, what do you mean, mom? What are you star bullshit?” Wood. He’s like, “Oh, I knew it. I KNEW IT. Our kids already, my kids already called him. Uncle Woody thought we related. His kids had always called me. Uncle Matthew thought we were related.

” And then off they went to play detective and investigate. And they found pictures. And then they found out this timeline that actually when if my mom shagged with his dad, it would have been at this set date, right? Which tracks to was in the middle of my mom and dad’s second divorce. They were married three times to each other. >> Yeah. >> So the timing adds up.

>> The timing. Yeah. So when Matthew went when she told me this a long a long time before mom act shared this with us. He had told me that when she was going to the hospital to give birth to him. She says, “Come on, Jim. Let’s go. I’m going to give birth.” He goes, “I’m not going. Uh that ain’t my son.

 That, you know, that ain’t my kid.” And he said that and he goes and he said he said he said he goes you got it from here. I got one rule just if it’s a boy don’t name him Kelly. That’s that’s his instructions as she was in labor. And u and so she the reason he said that ain’t my kid is because he knew that math wasn’t math.

 And >> yeah, >> and and so from the time I’ve known him, which has been a long time, you know, I I always felt like, god damn, I do that kind of thing, you know, I say something like this. There’s like all these parallels like you guys have with each other, you know, and and I’m like, holy, you know, it’s so weird.

 So when she said this, it just Eureka moment. It made sense. And I’ve got definite confirmation that they were uh you know he’s so excited about this being true. >> Yeah. >> He’s like we’re going TO BE BROTHERS. I’M LIKE MAN why aren’t you as excited as me? I’m like it’s easy for you man. You’d gain a brother.

 You’re asking me to like disown who I thought my father was for 55 years. It’s a little tougher for me. IT’S SOMETIMES YOU KNOW YOU know how you find family members in life like this person’s like more your family than your own family sometime well you know that’s true of us but it’s also could be true of your father he’s more you and I actually more blood makes perfect sense to him it’s so easy it’s a net game for you dude you get another father you’ve never met who’s spent a little time and then and then you got like three new brother you know like

it’s not so it’s >> a glass half full kind of guy [ __ ] >> that’s great >> how did you guys find out >> we’re still skeptical >> very very skeptical still trying to figure out you know how how a big barely man big bear looking guy like this comes out and it’s definitely nothing as as as complicated as what you guys just described right there.

 Bab, >> we did find out that Travis was named after the local milkman, but I I’m >> Yes. >> No, YOU GUYS STARTED COMING BY A LITTLE more often in those hot summer days when the milk curled. >> The first stories were that Travis was named after the kid in Overboard. There’s a kid Travis and that’s what we knew up thinking.

 And then mom let the cat out of the bag that actually was this other guy that she thought was really attractive. And I’m like, “Okay, maybe maybe there’s a chance. Maybe this is >> It all later unfolds. >> Uncle, you know, the main thing is the mom. You know, you got a common mom. You know that. >> We got that. We got that. >> We got a common dad.

>> God damn. I can’t wait to watch this thing, man.” So you guys thought of this thought of this 9 years ago and it slowly started to piece itself together or >> let the kids go on their investigation trail and it became >> you believed it from the get-go. Then then parts of the family started to believe it and then it was like well let’s do DNA test.

 I was like [ __ ] this ain’t true. We ain’t doing DNA test for no reason. And as we started to just sit there and other people started believing, um, we were like, well, whatever, DNA test or not, find out or not, let’s do a show on this possibility. And so then that’s when we started, we got together, found somebody that said, yeah, we’ll do that show with you. Got our families together.

 Started off thinking it was going to be my real family and his family together, just actually doing it. Everyone playing themselves. And uh um we probably got a little smarter, I think, and said, “No, let’s cast it. Let’s relax. professional actors in there. >> We’d still be shooting We’d still be shooting that some business.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. We were going to just improvise, you know, like kind of like they do with her where, you know, like they have really intricate outlines of the plot, but they improvise all that. So, uh that we were thinking about that, but then uh yeah, luckily we thought, no, better better get a script going.

>> Yeah. loosely based on our lives, who we are. We kind of exaggerated a few things, you know, turned up the turn turned some things up a notch for comedy sake and uh dove in and made it. That’s what we got. >> For sure. Yeah, that was one of my questions. How fi how fictional are the fictional versions of yourselves? I guess >> you say, man, I mean, look, we got the same amount of kids.

 They’re same similar age. Mom is Holland Taylor’s a great mom. >> Well, boy, she’s a great mom. We just turned up the >> I’m not Mr. >> We exaggerated ourselves a little. You’re not Mr. What? >> Well, like in the show, I guess it’s like I’m Mr. Order, Mr. Ambition. Got these things going on. Got my life all dialed in. Stay out.

 Don’t come mess it up. >> That’s not a good extent. It is. Hang to. And you’re Captain Chaos who’s never come through a front door in his life. >> Who if you are going to go to the Oscars, you best bring a swimsuit anyway. Um and and who has no context of time or space and doesn’t give a damn about if it doesn’t know if it’s Monday, Sunday, July, December, or don’t even have to follow a Christian calendar.

 What year it is, what millennium is it? Who cares? That’s him. And that’s hardly exaggerating. So, solidly based with a couple of little oomphs here and there. >> I’ll tell you what, man. I don’t know if you guys have just been on set with each other too much or you guys do feel like brothers. >> Yes. just sitting here.

 Haven’t seen you guys across. You guys do. And you said your families are close. And uh Matthew, I believe you posted this uh picture on on Instagram telling him happy birthday. You guys go way back. Like when did you guys first meet? >> Go ahead. He thinks we met before we actually met. That’s where we met right there. >> He thinks we met on on Ed TV.

 But actually we met I don’t know how much earlier, maybe a year earlier. And it was uh I don’t know around 95 or six or something. And he was uh >> I was probably later, probably 97 or something. But anyway, he he we were both at this thing at CIA at the time. We were both at CIA and uh and they were doing some kind of event and I walked up to him and I said, “How you doing?” Okay. So, a Time to Kill had come out.

>> Probably. Yeah. 7967. >> Yeah. So, I came over and I said, “Hey, uh, you know, would you like to do a shot?” And he’s like, it’s like 1:00 in the afternoon. He says, “Well, you know, I got kind of got a lot to do today.” I said, “What? One shot? One shot ain’t going to stop you from doing it, you know.” So, we we did a shot and uh and then he don’t remember any of that, by the way.

>> So, you didn’t get a lot done. He basically did a show with >> did incredibly well what I did but it had a lot of rhythm at least I don’t remember. So, what I remember though is meeting when I had TV where I met I’m at a wardrobe uh fitting in San Francisco, second story, wooden floors and windows are open.

 It was beautiful day and Woody’s supposed to come in after me. And what I I don’t see him first, but I hear something out the window. And I hear these this heavy metal hitting this concrete like someone walking. Look out the window. Here’s a guy in a full-on tour to France biking suit with his real biking shoes, clipons, but he’s walking. He’s not riding the bike.

 So he’s walking up a hill making all kinds of noise. Next thing I know, he comes in, walks the stairs, the wooden stairs, and then steps into this beautiful mahogany wooden floor, wearing those things, just creased that floor right all the way in. And I remember the casting director going, “So I want to go over your wardrobe.

” And he goes, “You’re looking at my wardrobe. This is what I wear.” And she goes, “But you’re not riding a bike.” And he goes, “It doesn’t matter. This is what I >> You’re talking about the director. You got another award winner in the cinematography in Chbo, man. We’re watching this and I watched it with Taylor as well.

 So, we’re watching this and we’re seeing kind of his his brilliance as well on this. Was he somebody you sought out in terms of uh cinematography or >> just his ability with understanding the visual medium, the performances, the world he brings you into all of them? I mean, Alejandro is someone that I’ve always wanted to work with >> and Chivbo is someone that I’ve always wanted to work with.

 Like you guys, it’s like we want to be surrounded by people that are the best for that particular kind of film. And sometimes a lot of people don’t know don’t know them, >> but >> you see what they did. I mean, visually what we did, we shot on Vista Vision. It’s just the pinnacle in terms of skill making this film. It’s I don’t know.

It’s like, you know, we were talking earlier, you know, about knowing the movie, you know, we’re talking about I see the way you run, you know, the way you clear, you play jazz. >> Yeah. >> So, and it’s like you understand sachs. >> Yeah. Sachs, man. >> We talk about it’s like knowing your skill like I’m people ask like what you do and I realize like I wasn’t it’s like I just dedicated my life to learning skills and ability and when you it’s a lot.

 It’s just constantly learning and studying and finding what is the correct technology or the correct format. Not what someone says it’s correct, but what you know is correct. So that you’re when you’re running routes, you’re very rare that you you’re finding like there’s a moment where I can see it in you. You see it you see it with musicians.

 You see it with you see it with athletes where you you know it but you’re >> you’re outside the game but inside the game you’re connected to everyone and it’s almost like you see those openings beforehand. >> Oh yeah. >> So when you look at Digger it is that high level of musicality and rhythm and comedy and jazz and it’s fascinating like in fields like that how how it relates.

 You guys mentioned the cinematographer uh director inito and the film overall man it’s fantastic and >> from the message to it all. Yeah. >> I just think the it’s very visceral >> which is you know a lot of times you feel that with like action movies or uh there’s there’s something that’s incredibly thrilling.

 But this thing, even the opening scene, like 30 minutes, you’re in that like one room if you and and you’re just completely captivated and there’s there’s highs and lows, the acting is incredible. You obviously you are fantastic. You nail Rockwell, John Goodman, all of it. But the way it’s shot, the way the camera moves, the way you move, like all of these things feel so purposeful while you’re watching it, and it it just it draws you in so well.

I mean, I’m in the middle of a movie theater. Four people in the middle of this movie theater and I am like going between like laughing like goosebumps and just enthralled. Your monologue, >> dude. >> Brother, >> epic. >> That thing is going to be in I we talked about this yesterday. I’m sitting there and you’re like maybe four or five minutes in.

 I’m like, I don’t think I’ve seen a cut yet. Like half >> Dude, I didn’t That’s what I was gonna I was gonna ask. Was that just one one rip? It’s >> one take. >> He cuts into it, but it’s one take. It was, you know, it’s interesting. >> You were in the zone, brother. >> Man, everything in the movie is purposeful, but it’s not like >> it was all written down and doing it.

You’re reaching for it. You’re reaching for tone. You’re reaching for that. >> You’re exploring and you’re creating. And then when you find that tone, it’s a razor’s edge of maintaining that and staying on it. And that monologue, when I read that in the uh in the script, I was like, “Oh.

” So you knew it right away the moment you read it. >> All right. This is please monologue baby. >> Oh my god. Please. >> You know you’re like it’s so you know we released this thing saying it took it took every bit of skill and learning new skills to be able to play this character. And that’s that’s what you love. >> So cool. >> You know I’m like I see it.

 It’s like >> you get that challenge man. >> You know what it’s like. >> You’ve you’ve done it. >> I saw you last night. It’s like there’s everyone’s like here it is. We’re there, but there’s always another mountain to climb. There’s always something to learn. There’s always something to go. And I’m getting there with the actors.

And there are times on set that everyone’s, you know, you know what it’s like? Like you’re working, but it’s like you’re in the middle of game speed. You know, it’s like everyone’s going, “We got to get it.” I’m like, “Just everyone, time out. Just take a second. Let’s look around this set. Look at this lighting. Look at this director.

 Look at these artists.” I like taking a moment and going, let’s let’s look at how beautiful these sets are. Man, are they >> It just all vibes. It all% And you’re still within it. You’re playing jazz. Like when I get to a point when I’m on a movie set, it’s when you start rolling, >> it’s >> it is like you guys you train.

 You talk about the installment you’re going. Now it happens. Now you you you you have to feel relaxed and confident enough with each other that we’re we’re playing. So that camera’s got to capture what I’m doing. and I’m there with the actors come to me said it’s okay if I do that I said listen you do you I’m here for you we’re going to play like you don’t even have to tell me let’s let’s just we’re we’ve worked together we’re communicating it’s the same thing but you’re working working and I’m like I always tell people

you know so everyone’s a little nervous or whatever they’re going I said I’m going to embarrass myself >> come on now >> you and I it’s like come on I said I want you to I I want you to step off. It’s okay. We’re together. >> Yeah. >> I I am your safety net and you are mine. We are all in this together and I have to I don’t want to put those barriers there, you know, like you’re going to do something.

>> You’re in that open field. You have to go like you got to trust it, man. >> And it’s okay. You know, I’ve read stuff and I’ve seen stuff like with you where someone makes a mistake and it’s like, >> “Come on. I’m right here with you, big guy. >> I’m right here with you. It’s okay. >> Can’t have you thinking about what we just did.

 We got to think about where we’re going, man. >> That’s it. And we all have to get to that place artistically and in life. And the point >> be a team player, man. >> That’s it, guys. Man, don’t be don’t be afraid to be a good teammate. >> Don’t be afraid. That is exactly it. And you know what? These mistakes, that’s yesterday. People get in.

 It’s like I’m like you. That was that was two seconds ago. >> Yeah. >> We’re going to have fun. Let’s create. >> I got to ask you about this character, Digger, man. Where did you get the Texas accent from, man? It is such a [ __ ] good like bang bang bang bang. >> Is it somebody you ran into or it just it was just kind of just it felt right when you started it up or what? >> Here’s what happens.

>> Feels a little like Jerry Jones to be honest. I don’t know the whole movie. >> It’s not This movie’s not This movie is not based on anyone. Let me make it clear. It’s really It’s not based on anyone. Look, here’s what I do. I I’ve always created characters since I was a little kid. We were talking earlier.

 I I create characters, write stories since I was little to make my family laugh. And I’ve traveled around like I love going to countries and just meeting people and knowing people and >> and I’ll lay in bed and I’ll just think of characters that I want to create in the future. >> So fun, man. >> And then I’ll find a movie and I’ll be like, I’m going to put that character in this or I’m going to explore that character in this or this tone with this movie.

 And that’s what happened like when Naru came to me with this character. He had like different ideas and I was like >> I got one >> this guy’s got balls, man. >> I thought like this Alejandro like he’s working with me the first time. He’s like I want you to do this. Like what I do with with directors and writers is I don’t read the scripts.

 I have them read it to me. >> Oh cool. >> Okay. >> I have them read it to me because I don’t want my ideas to invade it yet. I want to understand what is their communication vision. They’ve been working on it and they have things that are just there. Yeah. >> So, they come to me, you know, and I just sit there and I’m like, I want you to read it to me.

 And they’ll read it to me and I’m like, okay. And I’m the audience. I am a movie. I’m a popcorn guy. Like, I’m a meat and potatoes popcorn. Is it moving me or is it am I invested? Am I not invested? Where am I engaged? Where am I not engaged? That’s just who I am. So they’ll come to me and read like and I want to hear what their ideas are and in different like even every position on a movie the creatively wardrobe lighting I’m I want to hear what is their take on it what are they going to do and then we we get to a place where I start to understand and I

then I’m like I know how to contribute to that motion then I’m now it sparks ideas and I kind of have certain ideas that I have and certain things that I’d like to play with and then I don’t necessarily talk about it. I just do it. >> Yeah. >> Meaning I’m not going to sit here and say I’m gonna do this.

 I’m gonna do that. It’s like Uhhuh. Like I hear all the notes. I know lenses. I know the choreography. I know tonally what they’re going for. Because comedy, everyone go sees comedy and they’re like, “No, there’s all kinds of comedy. There’s all kinds like satire. What is that? What is the rhythm? What is the music we’re playing?” That’s when we’re into jazz. That’s what it’s like.

 Let me give me the baseline and I’m in there. And then now I’m just like I know where we want to go and let me I’m not going to talk about it. I see your lenses. We’re together and like even with the camera operator with Chbo, with Alejandro, we’re playing jazz. >> Oh yeah. It’s a jazzy feel to the to the what you’re getting out of this. Yeah.

>> It’s like when you hit that point with the movie, you want that. And that’s the thing. And it’s it’s always like you and I are talking about the different skills, you know, that you guys have. That’s what I love. Like I love your show. You’re going in and you’re doing stuff where you’re looking at someone and you’re living in their shoes.

>> Mhm. >> You know, >> literally. Yeah. >> Taylor, it’s like you guys like that her music and her skill. I’ve been watching her her whole life as a musician and as an artist. You’re just like, man, and not afraid to go into other things, not afraid to direct stuff. If you guys are like doing this, applying that kind of ability to other things, it’s that’s to me that’s life.

 The joy of creating >> and not afraid to be like the thing is like with success you feel people start gripping a little too hard and I was always like >> I’m all in, you know, like everyone’s like of course he made that movie. Of course that did well. It was like it wasn’t like that. Everyone’s like no we don’t want to do it. Oh my god.

 if it doesn’t work and I’m like I’m going all in. Let’s see what we can do. >> Full send, baby. >> That’s this movie is like it is all in. >> Yeah. >> Well, I got to ask you one more about the about Digger. So, the character at least. >> Let’s [ __ ] go. >> You’re one of the healthiest guys known to man from the what you eat, the recovery you do.

 What was it like putting on that bodysuit every single day? >> Dude, I’m glad you asked that. >> The prosthetics. First time I was like, you know, having that extra weight, >> my knees, I’m wearing the cowboy boots, >> sitting down all of a sudden. I was like, we had a thing. It was like dig her up, dig her down, you know, and I’m sweating because I’m wearing these prosthetics and the seats the takes like you were talking about.

 They’re long takes and the rhythm of it and how do you you have to you really have to know what you’re doing. But I’m sweating underneath. So, I came up with all these different things like cooling machines. We have be I’d be like, “All right, let’s dig her up. Everyone’s there. Now, we go like in between a take, let’s dig her down. You can see me.

” And I don’t leave set like I don’t I’m not interested in going to my trailer. I like being with the crew. I like being with everyone. I like I like being there on the set. So, they have a box for me and I’m always hanging out just there. I’m watching what they’re doing. I’m vibing with with Alejandra even and the director and everyone.

 Even if we’re not there, I’m just the actors. So, I’m always there. The first time I we did the makeup, it took 6 hours. Okay. So, you see that character? >> We got We got to cut this down, guys. We got to get this down. >> I know. I’m doing I’m doing the math. I’m always like, here’s my day. I’m like, there’s 24 hours in the day now.

They tell me I need this much sleep. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So I go, how I need to do things so well to be so economical in what I’m doing so that everything that I do when I’m there. It’s like like you for games. It’s like you got to peak in your game. So my days I have to peak from the morning till night. >> How do I do it? And now I got six hours.

So six that’s 18 hours. I got to sleep at least six, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. On a good day. keep saying. They keep saying >> maybe more. >> Yeah. No, I need more. But so like, okay, that’s 12. Now we have 12-hour days filming. >> Yeah. >> So now I’m going now that’s 6 hours on, 2 hours off with the makeup.

 So I was like, “Okay, now these all these these the they’re the pinnacle of putting makeup on and everything. Like they’re amazing.” So what I did was I said, “Look, one day they showed up. We started going. I put I had a chalk, you know, board up there with a eraser and a marker. Okay. >> And with each piece, I put each piece on the thing.

 And then I had a guy there with a stopwatch. >> Little masc stopwatch. And I’m like, okay, you see that time? 6 hours. I said, by the time we’re done, we’re going to get it under an hour. >> How about it? >> They were like, no, you never not doing that. It never happened. And I was like, “Okay, first of all, if you say no, you can’t do it.

>> We got to find >> you’ll never get there. So, can we agree that we’ll maybe make it a little less?” >> There we go. Yeah. >> And a little less. So, then with each piece that was going on, it was timed and timed and then they would drill and practice. By the time we finished, >> got an hour. >> Yes. >> How about it, baby? There you go.

>> Like, what? And they didn’t even know it was possible. >> And they didn’t even rush, >> right? So I like going into a system, studying it, trying to figure out how I can do it better, so more efficient so that I can, you know, the films that I make are very I’m constantly going, how can I do it better? How do I prepare better so that I’m there for the directors? I’m there putting it in the editing room.

 I’m there for my cast and my crew. I’m there for the studio. Yeah. So, I’ll study stuff and then I’ll kind of go, I think maybe we could do this better. I’m sure you guys face that all the time. >> I tell you what, I don’t know how you can make this one better, man. This is a fun one. >> It was It’s a masterpiece, man. >> Well, I want to ask you because I was talking to Kevin, uh, your guy, a little bit offset and he was saying the film in particular with this movie that it’s shot on film.

 How what was the thought process around doing that? like everything. Talk about being efficient. Like it’s probably more efficient to use digital stuff and be able to cut and move it around easier, right? Like what’s what is the gain of doing it on film? >> Well, first of all, it’s beautiful. >> Very beautiful. The framing is beautiful. Don’t get too technical.

 It’s like you want to find the correct frame that’s going to communicate the emotion. Like you’re talking about this the tension like in that room. Alejandro really understands stagings. It’s sensational. and his it’s also how what lenses do we use what format do we use that’s proper for that story so it’s not just like I did collateral where we were developing digital you know this movie collateral I did 20 years ago or whatever but it was you did digital because the environment needed to be part of of the movie you had to feel it

it’s like what emotional value are you communicating I’m always looking at at what am I using my tools that’s creating the emotional effect we want to create. >> So when you look at Vista Vision, first of all, Vista Vision was developed in the 50s 1950s because television came on and television and people were watching small screens or home.

 So they needed something to promote. It’s actually Paramount Pictures that did it. And then in the 80s they started cutting up theaters and I was like I don’t want you know when I was a kid I studied every part of movies studios and distribution. I was meeting with all those guys. I was like, “Stop cutting up the theaters.

Let’s let’s” and so I pushed the format of 65 millimeter, these cameras. We pulled it out. We did a movie far and away for it to try to not only promote, but it’s very beautiful looking the clarity and took a while, a couple decades before people kind of now we’re back to this. Vista Vision was developed.

 They used it then started to use it like ILM used it with visual effects, you know, it’s just how the the clarity of the frame, the richness of the frame and what you’re able to do with it. It’s just very beautiful and compositionally it works for the tone of this film or how Alejandro was able to shoot the film. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. >> Even the lenses they’re they’re custom lenses that were built for this to make it look very cinematic.

 When people see the film, they’re going to be like, it’s it’s just so rich looking. >> It’s gorgeous. >> It’s gorgeous. and the the detail. You know, you and I were talking about plays and football and you’re giving me the insides and the level of skill and artistry behind this crew. Like the miniatures that are used, the film, it’s all very practical, but it’s for a purpose for the movie that that gives you that emotional vibe.

>> That’s so cool. >> It’s a film like I’d be curious you see it again. Like you’ll get more and more out of the film the second, third time. saying this just a second ago. I feel like this is a movie that you watch and you pick more up on whether it’s the the the visual portion of it. Like even like to start the movie, there’s that cat and you’re like, “Why is that where >> why isn’t it just a real cat? Why is it robotic? Like what is going on with this cat?” And I’m captivated.

 You’re feeding it. I I don’t want to give away too much. I don’t know what we’re allowed to sneak pre but then you realize, “Oh, that’s why that cat is like that.” And like >> I love that cat. Oh, there’s probably so much more to pick up in a second watching. It’s absolutely enthralling. It’s captivating.

 There’s I mean, it is enriched in truth, which that monologue I mean that’s where that that truth just comes back full circle. >> It’s like a 10-minute monologue, one take in a fat suit. And when YOU SEE IT IN A FAT SUIT, I WAS LIKE, “OH, MAN.” I was like, “Will you start sweating? I don’t want to sweat my makeup in too, man. You’re up and down the steps.

You’re all over the man. Freedom, baby. >> Good. It’s so [ __ ] >> You demand I supply, >> dude. It’s so good, man. >> It’s funny because when I made bang bang bang, >> dude. >> You know, when I made movies back in the 80s and 90s, we we were able to >> like the films that it’s like I’m making Rainman or Born in the For even Top Gun, like people like those movies would stay in the theaters for a year.

So they became my films are you know the language I I enjoy the motion and language that’s why I study dance I study martial arts I’m constantly I study what you guys do and how your training is because that is a that’s a communication how how it’s very subtle I want people to notice things sometimes like with with less Gman or different things you can bring it or Magnolia there’s different physicality that that character allows that level of physicality.

 So movies would play for anyway they’d play for a very long time and you see the verbal quality of language >> and now movies it’s like you have a weekend. So when you see this character like Digger that is very it’s it is layered. It is a movie that the second third viewing you’re just it’s a you’re going to get more and more and more out of it more enjoyment in the same way where I’m going >> I want people to see it before it gets on streaming you know and then it becomes years later like I’ll travel the world and people are quoting the lines

back you know from different films like I quote lines back of my other films songs you know what I mean you hear you go to a concert and they’re singing the songs back >> so that’s kind of what I think of of movies. And so anyway, that’s kind of things when we’re looking at movies now, how you want it to live longer in theaters.

>> That’s so cool. Well, we got to ask about one of our favorite guys that that you worked with. We’re John Goodman family. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kind of reminds me of my dad a little bit. And in this movie, they they I feel like Sorry to compare you to Ed. >> Yeah. I’m sorry, John. Listen, you were the second wave of the Blues Brothers.

We’re Blues Brothers family as well. So, how was it working with John? He he absolutely crushed it. He’s brilliant. I don’t think he knows how brilliant he is. >> He’s just too smooth. >> It’s like the characters that he’s created. I agree with you. There’s just >> he has such a unique power as an artist. I’ve always loved his stuff.

 From the moment you see him, he gets on screen. I’m I’m leaning in. Right. >> In every film this guy does, every performance, you know, he’s playing Babe Ruth. He’s doing like, you know, he’s in just to name like >> Walter and Big Labowski. That’s one of our favorite characters. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

 like he’s just got one classic character after the next. And >> it’s funny. I I remember >> just seeing I’ve always wanted to work with him. He’s like one of those guys you just want to go. So I’m there on set with him. I’m like I always want to work with you, man. I’m so excited you’re doing this. >> Hell yeah. >> I would just make sure I show up early, you know, so that we could just in between.

 I don’t want to distract as we’re doing it, but we could just kind of hang and talk about movies and talk about experiences and it was wonderful. >> That’s awesome, man. the back and forth between you two in the film, like your monologue was just so hard-hitting. And then John has kind of his version of one and the like facial expressions he’s making and like >> I mean I’m laughing.

 I am laughing out loud in the movie. >> Tears. >> Yeah. Like you knew >> I DID. I did. I did. >> Dude, it is so good. >> You’re just like I’M LIKE, “OH, I did.” >> Oh, man. >> God damn. >> He’s awesome. the whole cast. I mean, Riz and we just had fun doing it. >> Hell yeah, man. >> The acting is incredible. You guys are going to love the film.

>> Absolutely. >> You have to check the sound theater. It is It’s beautiful. The uh the acting is out of this world. And the journey you go on through the movie is just completely captivating. You will absolutely love it. It’s fantastic. And like like I don’t the way it goes from that monologue.

 There’s so much truth in that. And then before that there’s so many times where people can like stop him, right? Can say something, but he he digs able to push him down, right? The scientist, he’s like, “Do you want to lose your D?” It’s like, “Okay, fine.” Yeah. Again, >> you’re the boss. >> Yeah. And then it’s like that moment where he’s like, “All right, YOU’RE PINNING THIS ALL ON ME.” YEAH.

 YOU YOU ALL HAD YOUR YEAH. YEAH. BUT HEY, so well done, Tom. Killed it again. All right. again. >> Hey, by the way, I was sitting next to Ter last night. She told me it’s like I don’t know if I like to say you guys use this, but it was so funny. She was telling me about your all’s, you know, first date.

 We were talking about football. Okay. Oh, yeah. But also what she said was >> how she was like having you two like how was it like you two like playing like hitting each other that we were out there basically boxing each other on like sweetie. >> Listen, I got to mention it to these guys. She goes, I said, “Is it okay if I mention it?” She says, “Oh, yeah. Yeah.

How about that?” It’s like, >> and now she knows everything. She sees the flags coming in like, “Oh, that was that that might be a defensive hold.” I’m just like, “What? What did you say, sweetie?” >> Oh, she was she was right. >> She was like, “That’s encroachment.” I’m like, “Do you know what that is?” >> Yeah, she’s >> she’s on it now.

>> That was one of the things was so enjoyable like meeting her at the Bills game and seeing how much like Tay is into football. She’s in >> asking questions like really trying to and now it’s I mean it’s been a few years since. >> Yeah, she was she was schooling me. >> Like this happened, that’s happened. He’s coming in.

 It was like it was awesome. >> Oh yeah, I got her. She’s she I mean she’s similar to you in terms of you just want to understand. You want to know the knowledge. You want to know the the the tiny minute details of everything and you just want the knowledge and to be able to understand. And once you understand it in a and this is anything in life, once you understand the full gambit of of everything that that is that is a part of a show or a part of a team or a part of a a sport, it makes it that much more fun to watch because you’re seeing it from such a a a

smaller lens and and you’re so appreciative of the the bigger outcome, you know. >> I agree with you. >> That’s why she loves doing the directing her music video. She likes to to feel the you know >> she’s really not dissimilar from what you’ve been describing in the way you like to learn everything try to have your like knowledge of why everybody’s here and what they do like hearing Tay talk about music >> from the story to the rhythm to the the visual that you’re getting I mean she just gets engulfed in it and she loves

it and you could tell that she loves it just by the outcome of >> and her whole life you can see exactly yeah >> even before when you see that of and it also like really understanding what people are up against, what they’re doing, understanding it, you just have an appreciation for people and humanity and skills and ability.

>> Yeah. >> And you look at it, it’s like, I mean, she’s a >> cook, a painter, a writer, a poet, and look at you. It’s like being able to take something and then create in it. It’s I don’t know. I admire that. Like when I see people like I’m always like going around and like looking at their skills and trying to understand that and then I learn from it and and how do we apply it? >> That’s the best, man.

 I appreciate you saying that, D. >> Oh, just a beautiful couple. >> Thank you, man. >> Like really beautiful. It’s it’s it’s it’s lovely in every way and your whole family and your friends, you know, from the moment that I that I’ve met you all. It’s just it’s really beautiful. >> Thank you for that, big guy. You already know, man.

>> It’s nice, man. I’m going to love you son of a man. >> Yeah, but you know what? You create your own luck, man. >> Pull it in the same way. >> More than anybody I know. >> In the same way like and as you’re going through it and you too, man. It’s like your family, everything. It’s like you you have a choice of how you’re going to >> you’re going to lift everybody up or you can focus on the negative, you know, and it’s not just being bluebird pie in the sky. Everything’s going to be great.

 You got to figure out why it didn’t work and then adjust it. But you got to have that that vibe of we’re going to make this work no matter how hard this storm is. >> Yeah. There’s the sun’s behind it. >> You got to believe it. >> The sun is always there, man. >> You got to believe it. >> Yes. >> Even if that forecast doesn’t say it.

>> Even that forecast doesn’t say it. Sometimes it’s wrong. >> We just got to get above the clouds. >> We just got to get the clouds. That’s my life. That’s my life. That’s it. I like that. You just got to get above the clouds. That’s all. You just got to get above the clouds. >> All right.

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>> Speaking of above the clouds, let’s talk about the rest of your career. Yeah. >> Hell yeah. >> Cuz this is like I mean your filmography, all of the films you’ve done, there’s so many just like incredible film one after the other. I do have a question to you though. Do you have one of them that you think is a little like underrated or that people don’t bring up enough that you love? >> I don’t really know.

 It’s fascinating when I travel the world and I love traveling the world. I kind of created when I created the red carpet premiieres so I could go to different cultures and it’s amazing to me how they what they quote back what they love what trends what goes through it. >> I was going to say is there do you get some fun ones from like random parts of the world that you would have never expected or is that just one just pop in your mind? >> I’m I’m like it it happens all the time.

>> That’s so cool man. >> I got to say like it’s >> I dreamed as a little kid like to to travel the world, make movies. I wanted an adventurous life. I wanted to know people. I want >> I just want to know. I want to I’m interested and I want to climb mountains and all the stuff that that I’ve been doing and and to be able to go there and suddenly someone in >> the country is like quoting back like show me the money.

 I’m just like like it’s beautiful man. Beautiful all the way from taps. I’m like what? >> I’m sorry. I’m still that kid that’s like what is happening? That’s cool. What is H? This is wild. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know, it’s it’s still that thing of this is amazing. >> Yeah. >> And I’ve always like I just make the movie.

 The joy in creating it and I can see I’m just going to keep creating and you kind of go through it and anyway that’s kind of what it is. I I don’t know. I just do it and what people like they like and and I like different range of films. Yeah. You know, >> this film Dugger in particular feels like a a different film than you’ve ever done before.

 It really it really does see this movie. >> Yeah, there’s there’s not really another film comparison. >> I would like to be able to do this all like you know what I’m like inari too like come on man give me another one let’s go let’s go. >> He’s great. He is fantastic. >> It is look it’s it it takes every bit of my skill as an artist to be able to play this character. It’s and it’s fun.

 It’s not like every bit of skill. It’s like you got to know you know I know that frame in Vista Vision. When you see that composition, you see those things, it’s like being inside the game and outside the game and in it and out. That’s that’s what’s happening on every level with everybody. >> I love it, man.

 Is there is there any So, you’ve you’ve uh you’ve been known to just be an absolute you want to get engulfed in you want to know the knowledge. You you love watching cinema movies. Was there something in terms of your preparation for Digger that you kind of wanted to like were there any movies that you that you quote unquote scouted got inspiration from? Um was was there anything that Yeah.

 in that world like getting ready to to go into the filming of Digger? >> There really isn’t. But one of the things because I knew how the writing was because I know these movies. So if you look at if you look at the early 30s4s and 50s films the use of language artists you know when you started out an actor would go in and they would put him to acting class and dancing and singing and language and and the literacy level and use of language was in a different place and the rhythm of it.

 So that kind of stuff where you’re looking at whether you know his girl Friday or that has this you know lubic you know these kinds of guys that I’ve just studied when you look at risky business when you hear these monologues when there’s things that I look at in terms of just music and musicians where I’m I see the phrasing you know you look at it’s not just singing or hitting the notes it’s the communication the phrasing that’s behind it.

 The words are like >> I’m everyone’s like, “How was it learning the monologue?” It’s like I don’t even think of that. It’s no, I’m exploring and I’m finding the pieces of music. I’m learning I’m learning the baseline so that when it’s there, I’m I’m not >> I’m alive and I’m acting. I know the points that I have to hit.

 I know, you know, I can see the frame. I know it’s I know Vista Vision. I know as this stuff’s turning, I can picture what that frame is going to be on that particular note for that particular moment. >> But to be doing all this and to be locked in on the I’m like, bro, in a fat suit, >> there’s so much goddamn [ __ ] going on right now.

>> You know what I mean? >> You’re you’re literally working like you can’t even count the milliseconds in which your your brain is. Those neurons are firing. >> But you know what? You’re in it and you got to play. Alejandro played these movies for the actors to show them. It’s like this is the you have to go with this timing.

 This is the beat, but you have to hit that beat, but you got to play jazz within it. You have to be present. It’s like, you know what it’s like? You can’t be thinking about what happened the last play. People go, I have to be present and in future. You’re present and in the future, you know, and you can’t, it’s like you can’t articulate it.

 You know, it’s going to be open at that point. He perceives there’s a perception that happens, you know, with people that you’re like, that’s just it. >> Yeah. >> When you’re we we’ve mentioned the monologue scene a bunch. You mentioned reading it, you knew right away like this is are there a part where you’re like in a scene whether it’s, you know, the tidy whitey scene, you complete me, show me the money, tropic thunder, whatever scene it is, where you’re just like this is going to be something that people are going to latch on to. Do you

know it while you’re doing it? There’s some moments when I’m dancing in MY TIGHT W THEY’RE GONNA LIKE THIS. THEY’RE GONNA LIKE THIS. >> I KNOW BECAUSE I’ve done it myself at home. You know what I mean? Like I was like when I read this I’m going and and the director’s like, “Here’s this doorway frame.

” And I’m like, >> I got >> I GOT THIS. >> It’s pretty sweet. I got some socks. Just make sure this thing’s nice and shined up. >> But it was like that. I was like when I went through it was like man I spun all the way across the floor and I’m like I need to be center frame in here you know.

 So I was like I got the prop guys like I put some some things there made sure I had the socks. So you just you can and you’re just having fun and you’re in it and you’re just like I think it’s cool. I can’t wait to do the scene and the only problem with making movies is you don’t get to do it again. >> Yeah. >> Do you know what I mean? So that monologue or different things I’m just like you just know I was if I’m interested in it or someone you can always tell if someone is passion you’re talking about purpose you know we were talking about that

>> yeah yeah >> like what’s your purpose why you doing it everything I’m going what’s my purpose and you can see what you put your attention on you give life >> yeah yeah >> I hear you on that >> it is wild if you put your attention into that negative it’s going to go there if you put your attention on that positive and keep moving and seeing correctly what is correct for you.

So I see it with directors. There’s what are you interested in? You start putting your attention there and help me help you. It’s like I you can’t wait. But movies are also they’re living things. It’s not like it’s all there on the page. >> Yeah, you have a guideline but you’re reaching for a tone >> and you’re discovering it.

 That’s the exciting thing. The unknown. You’re like, “Where are we here?” You know, you guys must feel it in every play that you’re doing. It’s like, “Okay, we practice. It’s not quite what we wanted, but >> Well, there’s the thing on the page.” Oh, yeah. And on there’s the line that you’re supposed to run.

 And TR talks about this all the time. But then you go out there and you have a feel. What’s the defense doing? Where are my other guys at? Spatial awareness. We’re talking about over there. Like, I’m sure it’s all very similar. >> It is. My daughters, they have one favorite song that we always play. >> They’re gorgeous. Your daughters.

>> Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. >> They’re so much fun, man. >> Oh my gosh. >> And they always say, “Dad, play rock and roll. Play B.” And all I’m thinking while I’m watching them, they’re dancing around version of their whitey tinies. Victor and Tom and his whitey tinies. >> So that’s that’s a favorite in our house.

>> And getting that car, stealing that car. >> I did that. Dude, >> I used to sit on a phone book and race the car out in the streets. >> Oh, yeah. >> South Yeah. take the car. How about it? >> I was so small. I was like had to get a phone. I didn’t have my license. You know >> the music in a lot of your movies.

 It’s like >> it’s insane. Like, do >> you know how many time do you know many songs that are from your career that we would play in the locker room like and like we’re getting ready to go out there and play football? Like I just >> anytime anytime I’m doing anything like intense or like mischievous, I just got the >> That’s why it’s so >> I saw the TV series when I was a kid.

 I was like that music >> really >> that’s why I did it. I was like I know but thank you. I look I love music and art and >> I’ve been fortunate so many talented people to work with. I learned so learned so much. >> That’s awesome. >> Does the music come first in those scenes or is it the other way around? >> Most of the time like I don’t like to edit with music.

>> Yeah. >> Because I you want to find the musicality within the within the movie first that language. So, but sometimes like we’re and you know sometimes it’s like you find that piece of music and I’ve made the mistake I edit to it now I can’t I got to get that piece of music you know but >> like that I remember I was in San Diego 1985 >> first of all it’s like Top Gun the studio wanted me to do this movie for a year whatever I finally met was like this movie is going to can’t wait but I heard that piece of music that Harold

Faltom wrote and I was actually with my whole family they were down there in San Diego were making it and I was just it was Fourth of July and I just had it on cassette. I was like >> epic. >> I like this is >> this is it. >> This you you know I knew Top Gum was what it was going to be as we were working on it and developing it.

 It was like >> you hear that that tune and you’re just like am I a hero? Why is this song making feel like suspenseful? >> Yes. Exactly. Yes. Yes. It’s like what’s happening? You could be here like this and suddenly you’re like >> nice feeling. >> Suddenly I I don’t know. I I can fly jets. >> I can I don’t know.

 This is like >> dude. >> Well, you’ve been notorious for stunts and every was it were you just trying to find one in Digger? Were you just like I got to find a stunt >> the fat suit the whole time? >> Yeah, fat suit the whole time. >> How does a fat suit compare to being on the outside of an airplane? What’s the level of difficulty? >> Higher and higher.

>> An airplane, you just hang on. >> Yeah. >> There’s a certain point you’re just hanging on and hoping you don’t get hit with something that kills you. You know what I mean? >> You’re just going, I hope I don’t get hit by a bird. You know, hope the engine doesn’t stop on takeoff. You know, >> we were talking about it just a second ago, but I’ve never put it together that you like to do these stunts, but there’s so many people relying on you not dying.

Like, is that is that going through your head while you’re doing these stunts? Like, okay, >> if we if we die, this whole film think about it. >> Screw be cool. Be cool. >> I know. Look, look, first of all, I I enjoy the stunts. I love doing the stunts. I was doing them since I was a little kid.

 Like, I I create my own stunts. Were >> we making ramps in the backyard? Where did it all start? >> No, I look I >> jumping off the trampolines. >> I tell you what, it started out I was a little kid and I opened the window and I climbed it out on the roof. And I’m like I’m like 2 and a half 3 years old stars but that’s I like to look at the stars and neighbor call it was like >> I think there’s a child and my mom was like oh my goodness honey actually this is up actually honey.

 Oh lordy. Oh lordy. My mom would be like honey. Uh why are you just like not trying to scare me but come on over. She used to like bake cakes to get me out of the like I’d climb the tree on windy days cuz I like the feel of it. And but it wasn’t just the stuff. It was something very aesthetic and I I would see movies and I’d see like singing in the rain how they could dance and they moved and I looked at motion in a very unique way and >> and I would think of things like the first time I got on an airplane. I was

about five, six years old and I’m sitting next to the window and we’re taking off and we’re we’re taxing and I’m looking out the window looking out the window and I’m looking at everyone there and all I could think of was as we’re taking off I looked at the wing and I thought how cool would it be TO BE OUT THERE.

>> I don’t know why I was like that’s >> I’ve always been in here. >> That seems cool. That seems cooler. >> That seems cooler. >> Tom, nobody’s ever done that. I know. So, I was thinking like airplanes and then you kind of go, what story can I tell with that? Like, how can I enter? I used to create characters and entertain audiences, but >> that’s the kind of stuff that I did.

 I I would climb out in that. I I did so many things and I I didn’t do it well. Like, I’d break bones and I end up in the hospital. My mom would be like, “Please, honey.” And then, “Stop climbing the tree. >> Please don’t do that. Please.” She She actually never said, “Don’t do it.” What she would do is she’d bake a cake and she’d be like, “It’s really windy.

 Why don’t you come down here? I got some cake for you. You can have some sugar. >> Was it a coconut cake? >> No, man. This is coming. >> Well, you all already have it. We already have it. So, the the thing is it’s just to entertain what, >> you know, as a kid, it’s like in life people are like, “Don’t do that.

 No, no, no.” And I’m like, “Less motion. We want you to sit still in class and don’t move.” And I’m like, I was always the guy looking out and dreaming. And I’m like, you can dream and I it’s not just cuz I’m like other people can do it. You can create your own way and do your have your own adventures. And I think that’s what life is.

 And I I always want an adventurous life. And for me, it’s about humanity. It’s about those kinds of things. So So when we get to stunts and stuff, it’s Yeah. Then the people sometime look I to answer your question, what happens Like I would do stuff and people like their eyeballs, you know, like this and their knees and I was like, I got to make sure people aren’t standing next to me cuz I’m trying to before I’m doing it.

 I’m like, it’s going to be okay, >> right? >> And then then I don’t want that vibe. You know what I mean? Like you don’t want before you game, you’re going into the game, people are going, >> you make sure you’re anxious, this is making me anxious. I’m like, this is going to be okay. Hey, I felt really comfortable. I feel good. I feel real good. It’s like everyone go.

 I feel very relaxed. I know what I’m going to do. You know, if [ __ ] goes wrong, you know, we have steps in place. >> The last thing you want in a huddle is a quarterback walking in there who doesn’t feel sure about what’s going on. It’s like, but I need some confidence. I need This is the last thing I what we’re doing, where we’re going, how we’re getting there.

>> You don’t want anyone looking like Yes. Exactly. >> You guys want to run this round or what? thousand yard stare. We don’t need that. No, >> no, I know. But then you realize it’s like Yeah. Cuz my whole thing is is I want people, you know, I want those pay those mortgages. I want my movies. As a kid, I was like, I just want my movies to do well enough that I can go all in on the next one. Yeah.

 You know, that I can learn more, go all in, and that it creates money so everyone get their bonuses and that other artists get to go make their movies. It’s like for me I’m always thinking how do I open this up so that other people can have that opportunity. I It’s not like oh do it my way. What what I love and you know talking to you guys hearing about your life hearing how do you see life? What do you see? I’m it’s like what do you see? >> What’s life like for you? What is art for you? What are your what is that that I I think that’s just interests me more

than anything. You know what I mean? It’s like >> it’s fascinating, man. I’m with you. >> I’ve never met a normal person. We’re talking about it. Like I start It’s like I want to be normal. I’m like I talked to a lot of people. >> You’re going to be real boring. >> You’re >> I’ve never met a boring person in my life ever.

>> You just did the uh the cover for GQ. Come on. From one GQ cover to another. Let’s go. >> GQ, man. >> The one shot with the hat and the bo the bow tie untied on Hollywood Boulevard. Were you just walking around just it didn’t look like anything like it was like a set? It was you just walking around Hollywood Boulevard.

>> I was on with those guys. You know, Adam’s editor did beautiful job. They’re like, “Oh yeah, I said, you know, >> chaper guys brilliant and whole team, everybody was great. But we were there. We had so much fun.” And everyone’s, you know, cuz you know what it’s like. We want you here. It’s safe here. Go there.

And I was like, “What do you want to do? Like what’s your dream? Let’s have fun. Let’s have some fun doing it, man. >> And they’re like, I want to go on Hollywood Boulevard. I was like, let’s do it. Everyone’s like, okay, what’s I said. So, we set it up, you know, I’m just in the car. I had changing the car.

We just they kind of played set it up and then I’d step out, do the shot, and then we jump back in before the crowd came and then we go to the next place and jump out. It was so much fun, man. >> There you go. It was fun. You got it. >> I’ll tell you what, when I was doing mine, uh, the idea came up to go into the Everglades and stand on the roots of of the like top of the Everglades.

 I think the liies or whatever they are vegetation. >> Yeah. Whatever the vegetation is, and hold hold alligator. And I’m just like, let’s [ __ ] do it. Are you kidding me? Let’s do it. I look back and I’m looking at I tell Lindsay all the time. I’m like, you let me do that? >> Yeah.

 What is the matter with you people? >> You understand? What does it matter with you? >> Like guys over there like putting sticks in the ground just to make sure there weren’t any gators underneath me. I’m just like what? There was 100% gators underneath that thing. >> Yeah, there’s no gators. You’re going to be all right. You’re big boy.

 That gator’s going to run. >> That’s exactly what they were saying. >> That gator’s going to run. He’s We’ve seen you run. You’re fast. >> But it was so much fun. >> We’ve seen him run. He’ll get he I’ll run it. We’ll just tell him. Get ready to tell him. >> No, man. It was that it it was so much fun. But you’re right, man.

 It’s just like just go for it, man. >> Oh, it’s so much fun. I They put me on um >> these uh flyboards on the on the water that it like connects to jet ski and it’s just like shoot you out. I felt like I was uh Marty McFly and and Back to the Future. I’m just out here hovering around. >> So cool. >> It’s cool stuff, man.

 I was I was fortunate. I had to ask you about the GQ. >> Oh, that’s awesome, man. >> Congrats on that. That was awesome. >> Congrats to you, too. >> We’re going to get to this portion we got to ask here, Tom, which is just some rapid fire questions. Feel free to throw them back at us, too, if you have any. I am curious if you were to have a different uh occupation or like a different like what would you be doing? >> That’s good. I I don’t know, man.

 I had I didn’t have plan B. >> Just like you like look also, you know, >> that’s a good way to make sure plan A works out. >> That’s it. There was no plan B. Like I got to take I got to take care of my family. I’m like this is it. I’m going to make it work. And here’s the thing. Yep. And all in. I’m all in with everything I do. I’m all in.

 Now it’s also I do have a question. And it’s like talking about that like the success the interest that you have in others and skills. You guys know it from developing a skill. >> Now you started out as quarterback >> and you many different sports you guys both but that now look at this you I mean as you’re evaluating >> that was plan A.

 Tight end was always plan B >> but but how about that in terms of >> became >> it became plan B. >> But how about that in terms of learning different skills and viewing the world and your world? Yeah. 100%. >> If you’re talking about coaches and different coaches and different techniques, it’s like a it is a different language.

 Every if you look at a subject, every subject has its own wording, its own vernacular. Yep. >> And there’s usually only a couple hundred words. And if you understand that subject and you can find those couple hundred words, it become goes from a confusion to order. >> Right. Yeah. Also, as you’re going through it and you’re learning your plays and you’re putting things in, when you’re starting out looking at the 600 plays you guys have to do, there’s a confusion.

>> So, you got to figure out how do we put order within that confusion. >> But you’re talking about things that I cuz I didn’t think, oh, this is what I’m going to do. I just I was just doing it. >> Yeah. >> And then I have to think back of going, what what worked? What were the successful actions? Don’t you guys feel that? Like, what are you thinking? like to be able to apply those skills to what you’re doing in your business or your life or what things are successful on a team.

>> There’s carryover in all of it for sure. And Trav talks about all the time like the fact that he played quarterback has made him a better tight end >> without a doubt. thinks about the game also with that perspective in mind and >> and I naturally understand the rhythm of the plays depending on what that quarterback’s drop is, his footwork um in terms of timing.

 I understand what he’s doing without even looking at them. So, I know my timing and my route is going to match up with what he’s doing in the pocket. And it’s just it’s it’s mirrored up because I was fortunate enough to be in the tight end room or be in the quarterback room and understand the just the techniques of what he’s got going on, where his eyes are in terms of and and you hear it through how the coaches are coaching him, how and and but it’s just a different world being actually in that room.

 And Jason has the same thing of being a middle linebacker and going to center. He understands the gaps, gap assignments. He understands >> defense to offense like that. But then you see the linebacker, you’re like, “Okay, the linebacker should be in this a gap.” So if he’s over there, that means this something else going to show up in this gap.

 There’s a single high safety. This guy, these guys should be pushed over here to cover this receiver over here. You you know what their rules are and that helps you then assign your job more effectively or anticipate what they’re about to do. >> And it’s there’s carryover and there’s a lot of coaches actually do that where like they’ll have offensive players in an offseason go and sit in a defensive room so that they can hear it from the other side.

 And I think it’s always a good idea to do that. Problem is, you only have so much time. So like, how how much are we going to waste from doing offensive line plays and repping that stuff to let them learn wide defensive linemen or lining up with um you know as a three technique instead of a four eye shaded on the tackle like we’re talking about like a 6 inch difference, but could completely change the way that guy’s going to play for the play.

 So, um, yeah, that’s that’s the stuff you find that like that’s >> that’s the stuff I nerd out on. Oh, yeah. >> I nerd out on like that. It’s it’s >> ask when I moved the tight end, I had I was like, how are you? >> Honestly, it’s the thing I >> looking at on defense. >> It’s probably the thing I miss probably one of the things I miss most from the game is that like looking throughout the week and like staring at a nose guard to see if he gives any type of tell when he’s going to slant or a defensive end when he’s going to drop. Man, every time

that nose guard is slain, I even want to say this on camera because this is a great tell that people probably don’t even know they’re doing, but whenever a D lineman puts his forearm on his leg, they don’t even realize it, but they’re pushing off their leg. So, whenever I was in my stance and I saw a nose guard with his forearm on his leg, I’m like, he’s going to slant.

 And then I look over and sure enough, the nickel would be capped. But if his hand was up and ready to strike me, he’s playing his gap straight. So, he’s going to stay in that gap. And you’re looking for any of these like little things throughout the week. And it might be the smallest thing, but if you got a 100% tip on something, you’re going into it with a cheat code.

You can check into the perfect play, a screen. We’re playing the Jets. I’m like, dude, they’re bringing the nickel J preseason. Oh, yeah. Nickel >> check. Uh, what was it? Rocket. Uh, laser. Go laser. And sure, we run a screen. Get a touchdown. Yeah, that’s the stuff. That’s the fun stuff. >> Did you ever play somebody in the league? And I’m actually very curious about this.

 Did you ever play somebody in the league that had the same that you knew had the same attention to detail as you and you and you and you would flirt with doing stuff like putting the hand on the knee type? >> Well, whenever you’re playing like the older the older the nose guard >> because you’re usually messing with the nose guard, that’s guy staring at you.

Maybe the middle linebacker, you would mess with points, right? Like cuz now they all look at the tape and like, okay, the center pointed this way. Real complicated. The protection is going that way. So then it’s like, “Okay, guys, I’m going to dummy point this one.” So, I point this way, but I call the the guy over here.

 So, then the guy on tape is setting the blitz away from the So, you’re starting to mess with that stuff. >> Then, uh nose guards. You start to lean. People don’t realize you just It’s not even a lot, but you just lean a little bit. If he’s on top of it, he knows that. >> So, you’re leaning a little bit to the left to try and influence this guy to kind of step this way to start the play and then go right. Right.

>> Is that right? So, you know he’s doing it. But then you’ll play a smart guy like I’m playing Javon Hargrave and I would lean a little bit on the hard count to get guys to jump and I just lean very slightly. >> Just a little hard and the and the nose guard smart guy right in the like you being too obvious.

>> IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT HE SAID? >> IS THAT WHAT he said? >> I’M LIKE OH you got me. You got me. >> That’s good. Holy [ __ ] That’s good. That is good. You’re being working over here. >> But how about that? within seconds now. It’s fascinating. It’s It’s literally like >> And there’s guys on the defensive side, Luke Keequley, calling the plays out.

>> I still remember we’re running, we line up >> and Ke’s like, “WATCH THE WHAM.” AND I’M LIKE, “FUCK, THIS plays is done. Nobody This is not going to work. >> It’s too late to change it.” >> Well, you you I don’t have that authority. Like the quarterback could change it. But that’s if we’re calling a play, we’re usually calling it to run it if it’s the right look.

 And but the funny thing is he knows it come. He even said it. The play still hit. And after play screaming, I TOLD YOU IT WAS COMING. AND I’M LIKE, HE DID. HE TOLD ALL YOU GUYS, >> YOU IDIOT. >> YOU SHOULD listen to him. >> YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO HIM. >> He knows something. Yeah. >> But isn’t that interesting? It’s like you look at stuff and you’re going, you’re in the future.

 Like you’re able to see it and you’re predicting. And the only way to be able to do that is if you have the correct technology with which to look at something. It’s it’s not just a guess. It’s like you just got to go. You had the right information. you had the right perception and people think like you’re running or you’re doing that you’re perceiving beyond your own space and all that stuff like that’s why I train in arerobatics that’s you know you see me on a motorcycle and I’m traveling that camera’s right there and I’m traveling 130 mph with no

>> and it’s like there you got to perceive not just that camera the other guys there in the road >> but that’s some cool stuff that’s that’s the stuff that I geek out on like that is the stuff that I’m looking at and people it’s not even analytical at times you just you just you you p you perceive it like that like I’m riding and you you know if I’m there in stunts I’m going into traffic whatever I’m perceiving I explain it but I perceive the hands on the steering wheel and you could just go is it you know you’re flying and it’s

just a wing and I’m right you know the next airplane’s just a little higher than that and I’m right under we’re doing we’re doing rolls and loops I’m sweating just thinking You just you perceive this, but also with an actor, you know, you’re in a scene >> and that camera’s moving, you’re there and you’re it’s not analytical.

>> Yeah. >> But you you’re just That’s jazz. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That’s jazz. >> The game within the game, baby, >> guys. It’s a game. But it’s it’s fascinating talking about it because some people don’t understand what it why or how why did it work? How did it work? >> That’s just fasc It’s fascinating to me, man.

>> It’s the best. You were you were talking about some training. We got to talk about the pain cave, man. I told you guys when we were at Taylor’s I said I told you guys I said come to my pancake. >> Yes, I’m in. >> I’m fascinated. I’d be interested to see you’re doing 650 squat. I’m like I’d be interested to see you destroy these machines. Both you guys.

 I’d be fascinated. >> The problem is my endurance is low. I’m I’m geared up for the three to four reps. Once you start getting north of that, I go, >> all it is, it’s like, look, I’m >> I’m like, you know, when you’re hitting hard that pain cave, like it’s it’s >> I’m just curious. >> You guys are welcome anytime.

 You’re welcome anytime. >> It’s working. We saw GQ. Got to bring it, man. >> You know, you got to you got to show up. You got to show up. >> We mentioned directing. Have you ever thought about directing? Will you direct? >> You know what? I I’ve since I was a kid, you know, friends have been like, “You should direct. You should do it.

” It’s I’ve studied the old movies and these guys are able to make four movies a year. I want to make a lot of movies and I’ve wanted to make a lot of films and I love working with different directors. I love learning from them, seeing their stories, setting the table for them, giving them opportunities.

 You know, it’s you just see talented people and I’m sure you guys are like it. It’s like look, you guys weren’t drafted first round. You know, you you know, but they saw that light in you and that ability and you guys bring it. And I like, you know, the people that I’m choosing or working. Maybe not everybody knows necessarily best. Some do, some don’t.

But I’m not just talking about directors, it’s everything. And I’m going the fun of of that to have that opportunity. If I’m directing, I don’t get to do that. I don’t have that experience. That’s kind of the way that I think about things, the studio, the lives, and I want I want it to last. So, that’s what I’m thinking when I’m making a movie.

 That’s what I feel about directors. I want to help them, the cinematographers, the actors, and I want to learn. It’s like and I like seeing their point of view on things. And I like mixing it up. Like Days of Thunder, that movie is going to be fun. >> Yeah, >> that movie is going to be I can’t wait. Get me in that race car again, man.

Please. >> Hell yeah. Hell you say? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You know, you know what I’m saying? You’re in that car. >> You’re in that car. >> Come on now. >> Come on now. I remember used to be able like I back in the 80s I had and my sister I was like, you know, I’m driving around Daytona 200 miles an hour, you know, with these cars and we had the open helmets, we had the seats and my sister was 6 months pregnant.

 I was like, “Hey, guess, you know, jump in the car.” You know, I was giving my sister around. So they get in and they just hold on to the rails like this. Everyone was like, >> “No issues. >> No issues.” No. No. Like, no. HR coming in and going, “Wait a second. How long is like go for a spin? WHAT DO I DO? JUST HANG ON. JUST HANG ON.

 You’re going to be good. I’m not going to be all right. 200 mph going right up against the wall. Go give her a couple of laps.” She’s like, “Boo.” Everyone’s like, “That was awesome. Next.” Now it’s like, “You got assigned here. How’s that? What speed?” I’m always like, “Look, >> this is the shot. >> This is what we’re going to do.

” >> Yeah. Nice. You say you uh you try to watch movie a day or a bunch of them. Is there any genre you’re in right now or is there a movie you’ve seen that you’re you’re you were like, “Damn, that was a good one.” Or >> many. I I go back and forth looking at uh just preparing for looking preparing for days.

 So, I’m you know, I’m studying just different just different camera angles of motion, looking at a lot of wide range of films. So, I’ll even like look at videos and see what are they doing. What are what are we doing? I’m looking at I’m looking at older technology. >> So, I um being the old head in the building, I uh I brought >> old head at what 36.

 Is that right? Are you like the old head? Is that >> Oh, yeah. I’m the in the NFL world. That is Yeah, exactly. They actually call me OG in Philadelphia. >> Yeah. OG, of course. Jix Hunt. >> Yeah. OG. >> A lot of the newer teammates that I got weren’t born until after 2000. So, I brought in my 13-in box Panasonic TV with the little VCR in it.

 And there is something so soothing about watching a VC like a VHS on a old Panasonic or just I don’t know what it is. I just pop in movie after movie. I’m just like getting them all sent to the facility and I’m just popping in movie after movie. >> What are they like? >> It’s just all of them are just kind of sit over there and it’s just like >> they’re like, “THIS LOOKS TERRIBLE, TRAVIS.

EVERYBODY STOPPED AND watched it for a little over what do we >> Yeah. But here’s the deal. You look at like vinyl. >> It’s came back around. It’s came back around. >> I’ve always been real tore in vinyl. I’m an audio file. >> Perfect time. We got some vinyl in the back. >> I know. We got vinyl.

 And here’s the thing. If you look at there’s Dead Reckoning with Mission. I was like, I want the I want that vinyl store at the beginning of the movie. I want to build I just keep putting it there. I’m just I’m like I put it there and make this the store look beautiful. You know, at the beginning of the movie we’re in in a record store with vinyl and now it is coming back because the quality is so >> fantastic and it’s you know and you’re seeing it.

 So I love that she’s pushing that and that kind of stuff. We want that. >> Yeah, >> they want it. People are going now I don’t want to be on my phone. >> I want real. I’m not I’m interested I’m not interested in the digital. I want what’s what’s >> I want something tangible, something I can hold in my hands. Like even the VHS, like even though the picture doesn’t look as good, you’re right.

 There is something where it’s like this thing is a thing. >> It doesn’t it’s not in like some uh cyber world that is around us. >> It’s right in my hands and I can Yeah, >> I know. I There’s something about it and it’s not just in fact like in the theater like where we watch Digan. You’re in a space and there’s the the sound that you hear.

 It feels so much more alive being in that place. >> Yep. Look, I’m not I have nothing against streaming or any of it’s like that that everything has everything. And I >> I guess I’m just I’m uh it’s like being at the stadium last night. Those people were so nice in that stadium. >> Like in your box, in the boxes next to it, everyone is we’re we’re all there.

 I just going to Taylor’s concert. It’s like and all of us together last night and the whole crowd up there. Everyone’s just having fun and communicating and we’re enjoying like >> this experience. I don’t know what to say. It’s like that’s that’s like that’s that is what it’s about. That is that is fun. Tangible, man.

>> Well, sitting right here, it’s tangible seeing you. >> I was like you guys like I want to do this like you guys are together. I said, “I’m not doing this on Zoom.” >> Yeah. No. >> No way. We’re going to I want to be here. I want to talk football. I want to hear about your all’s lives and and have some fun this way.

 This is >> This was a lot of fun. >> This is fun, man. >> Ton, thank you so much for for coming, Tom. This is incredible. And if you want to have some fun October 2nd, make sure you go and see Digger. You will enjoy it. It is going to be a You’re going to have a reaction. Like, it is going to take over you. I promise you that.

 And bang. To prove it, we got a special >> little clip here we’re going to show you these guys. Yeah. Yeah. Give you a sneak peek. >> Good. Good. Enjoy. >> I play ball in school. >> Only game my granddaddy came to, I hit a home run. >> Over the fence by 20. In the car ride on the way home, my granddaddy said, “I don’t give a [ __ ] about your home run, digger. Anyone can get a home run.

Triples is what’s impressive. Triples requires hustle. And hustle, digger, is something that you sorely lack. You little lazy piece of [ __ ] >> Hello, M Mr. Rockwell. Uh, my name is Sandy Clarkson. I’m the deputy regional head of environmental security for the drilling facility up here in 79 North. >> Yeah, Sandy.

 Sandy, I know where you’re from. How you been, buddy? >> I didn’t think you’d remember me, S. >> Of course I do. Sandy Clarkson. You’re the man with 5T crack. We spoke 5 months ago. >> Uh, it was two weeks ago. >> Sandy, I’m glad you brought it up cuz I’ve been thinking about your 5ft crack for a while now. Here’s my take. Glacier over there in Greenland. It shifts 5T.

This desk in front of me is bigger than 5 ft. Mr. >> My dick is a tenth of that size. So, what do you want me to do, Sandy? Shut down the billion dollar platform over something that’s 10 times the size of my dick. >> Bang, bang, bang. >> Digger coming out October 2nd. Make sure you guys go and see it in theaters.

 It is such a relevant story to what we got going on in the world today. You got power, greed, freedom, right? >> You know what? And these this story is as old as time because you could have power at you know we’re talking about the schoolyard at any echelon of life there’s this these characters play in and it just it it is about that it is about it is modern but it is ancient in terms of its exploration and expose of human behavior in a very humorous and emotional way and it is immediate.

 It is. It is absurd. It is present. People can relate it to their own lives >> in the best way, man. It’s It’s so good. Excited as hell for all you guys. >> Jason began. Hello everyone. Today we have a special episode. Travis, you recently appeared alongside your wife at a small event and the whole world is talking about Taylor’s new single, Patient Zero.

 What do you want to say first? Travis sighed softly, but his eyes lit up. You know, I still find it a little strange. Strange in a good way. Patient zero. The name sounds like something out of a science fiction movie, right? But when Taylor sat down at the piano in our studio at 3:00 in the morning and started singing the first few lines, I knew right away that this wasn’t just a song. It was a story.

 He paused as if reminiscing. The studio fell silent. Travis continued, his voice low and slow. We’ve only been married for a little over a year. People still call her Taylor Swift, but to me, she’s my wife. Every morning, she wakes up first, makes coffee, and quickly scribbles a few lines on a piece of paper. Patient Zero began on a rainy night in Kansas City.

She looked out the window, saw the streaks of rain, and suddenly said, “Travis, if love were a virus, who would be patient zero.” I laughed, thinking she was joking. But she wasn’t. She was serious. Travis elaborated. He described the small room in their house, warm wooden walls, a few guitars propped up, a sleek black piano that Taylor always left the lid open.

 That night, she sat down, her fingers running across the keys, and fragments of patient zero emerged. Travis sat beside her, simply listening. He didn’t fully grasp all the metaphors at the time, but he sensed their weight. The song is about a love that begins like a first infection. No fuss, no warning, just a glance, a word, and then it spreads throughout the body.

 Taylor writes about the feeling of being infected, infected with warmth, infected with the fear of loss, infected with sleepless nights worrying about the other person. She told me, “Patient zero isn’t a sick person. Patient zero is someone carrying new life.” I sat there silently. Then I understood. Jason interjected. Were you involved in the songwriting process? Travis laughed loudly.

brother, I’m just a football player. But Taylor always asks for my opinion. There’s a part where she sings about the field under the lights, and I know right away she’s talking about the stadium. There’s a part about the silence after the crowd leaves, and that’s when we were sitting in the car after the game with only the rain and our breathing.

She takes our real moments and turns them into poetry. Patient Zero has a chorus that still gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. He began to sing softly a few lines in a low, unprofessional, but genuine baritone voice. I was the first to catch it. The fever under my skin. You were the air I breathed in.

 And now the world begins. Travis paused, smiling shily. I’m a terrible singer. But when Taylor sings, the whole room changes. She recorded the demo version at home. There was no big orchestra at first, just the piano, her voice, and the sound of rain outside the window was kept as background effects. Later, the production team added strings, light percussion, and a slightly electronic bridge like a gradually increasing heartbeat.